I've never had new atv shocks so I can't compare my current shocks to anything. I've got stage 3 Elka's that don't seem to be affected much by any of the adjustments I make (compression rebound). Now I haven't got to ride it yet but was thinking I should be able to tell just by pushing up and down on the quad. It's got 140lbs of nitrogen. Not sure how to check the oil.