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Offline bnau267

The price to convert and setup my OEM as a PEP is around $450.  My guess is another $350 to $400 gets me a brand new PEP rear.  Who's been down this road?  I have Axis for the most part, and they seem like a better priced suspension, but I'd like to run PEPs on the bike I'm currently building.  I'd have Baldwin do the PEP setup being that they're next door and Mark has a ton of R background.

Thanks, Bob
« Last Edit: June 10, 2014, 07:48:27 AM by bnau267 »

Offline zcarlson12

New PEP rear vs OEM PEP conversion - suggestions, pros, cons.
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2014, 05:28:23 PM »
I've been sending Baldwin my suspension for years and never have had a complaint. I run ZPS fronts and an Axis no-link rear on my Laeger which he just revalved and serviced, they are perfect.
Laeger 310R

Offline andy@maultechatv

New PEP rear vs OEM PEP conversion - suggestions, pros, cons.
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2014, 05:48:09 PM »
I'd keep the Axis.  They are better.  There's nothing wrong with the stock internals either if they are changing them.  You may just be buying new springs and a revalve.

Offline bnau267

New PEP rear vs OEM PEP conversion - suggestions, pros, cons.
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2014, 06:36:14 PM »
Quote from: andy@maultechatv;36044
I'd keep the Axis.  They are better.  There's nothing wrong with the stock internals either if they are changing them.  You may just be buying new springs and a revalve.

Thanks Andy.  Not doubt I'm a fish out of water when it comes to suspension.  The problem with my Axis set is that I need to have mine converted from LT to standard to work with the Roll XC arms.  Plus I was wanting to go piggy back and PEP has a cool little kit to connect the bottle.

Offline andy@maultechatv

New PEP rear vs OEM PEP conversion - suggestions, pros, cons.
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2014, 06:42:22 PM »
We have the same mounts for Axis too!  I'm not a paying site sponsor and am not trying to do business on here.  Just wanted to help out and tell you it would be better to stick with the Axis.  To go to long travel on the Axis you will need new bodies which isn't that big of a deal for a shop to do.

Offline bnau267

New PEP rear vs OEM PEP conversion - suggestions, pros, cons.
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2014, 07:10:58 PM »
Quote from: andy@maultechatv;36046
We have the same mounts for Axis too!  I'm not a paying site sponsor and am not trying to do business on here.  Just wanted to help out and tell you it would be better to stick with the Axis.  To go to long travel on the Axis you will need new bodies which isn't that big of a deal for a shop to do.

Thanks for your insight.  I appreciate it very much.

Offline Leftynanners

New PEP rear vs OEM PEP conversion - suggestions, pros, cons.
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2014, 02:49:05 AM »
Just out of curiosity, what advantages could somebody expect purchasing an aftermarket shock as opposed to doing a conversion on their stock shock?

Offline andy@maultechatv

New PEP rear vs OEM PEP conversion - suggestions, pros, cons.
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2014, 07:51:24 AM »
Quote from: Leftynanners;36198
Just out of curiosity, what advantages could somebody expect purchasing an aftermarket shock as opposed to doing a conversion on their stock shock?

That's a really good question.  Actually some stock fronts have really good pistons in them.  But the downfalls to them are that the adjusters don't have much range and some don't do anything at all.  The other big factor with stock shock conversions is that they are limited to what extended and compressed lengths they can be changed to.

Offline big_R_bore

New PEP rear vs OEM PEP conversion - suggestions, pros, cons.
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2014, 11:57:04 AM »
I just had my 86 rear shock converted with pep internals from Baldwin motorsports, I can give feedback soon when I finish the build here in the next month, but I have never riden on a true pep rear shock so I cant compare the two.

Offline rablack21

New PEP rear vs OEM PEP conversion - suggestions, pros, cons.
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2014, 01:27:47 PM »
This might be another option as well. Maul Tech is now the exclusive dealer for GT Suspension components. If I didn't have an almost new set of Axis shocks, I would be buying a set of these from Andy.

Offline Tbone07

New PEP rear vs OEM PEP conversion - suggestions, pros, cons.
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2014, 02:23:07 PM »
Quote from: zcarlson12;36042
I've been sending Baldwin my suspension for years and never have had a complaint. I run ZPS fronts and an Axis no-link rear on my Laeger which he just revalved and serviced, they are perfect.

Why do you prefer the Axis over the PEP, Andy?
LED Performance 350R
Laegers-JD Performance-GThunder-HLS-PEP-HiPer-GBC

RIP Laz

Offline Burns363R

New PEP rear vs OEM PEP conversion - suggestions, pros, cons.
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2014, 02:34:52 PM »
Check ball system.
TRX 363R 02- Laeger Narrow Frame/CR500 Link, Motowoz Suspension, Roll Design +4 LT Arms,RPM Dominator +4 axle, LED 363 MX, LED 350G Pipe, 38 A/S CR Ignition

TRX 370R 86- Laeger Std,ISF-No Link Swinger, JD MGC LT Arms) Motowoz Shocks, LED 370/350D pipe, 38 PWK Carb, CR Ignition

Offline rablack21

New PEP rear vs OEM PEP conversion - suggestions, pros, cons.
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2014, 02:42:59 PM »
Quote from: Burns363R;39091
Check ball system.
This ^^^^

Offline andy@maultechatv

New PEP rear vs OEM PEP conversion - suggestions, pros, cons.
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2014, 07:57:41 PM »
There is a reason PEP didn't run a check ball piston in the rear shock.  Because it won't work!

 

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