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Offline Robsessed86

New Project: YFZ/Banshee Hybrid
« Reply #60 on: June 10, 2016, 10:46:21 AM »
This going to be a badass quad

Offline jcs003

New Project: YFZ/Banshee Hybrid
« Reply #61 on: June 11, 2016, 12:06:30 PM »
unpolished chrome parts ;


Offline jcs003

New Project: YFZ/Banshee Hybrid
« Reply #62 on: June 11, 2016, 12:11:26 PM »
more assembly:

« Last Edit: June 11, 2016, 01:21:07 PM by jcs003 »

Offline jcs003

New Project: YFZ/Banshee Hybrid
« Reply #63 on: July 01, 2016, 05:11:29 AM »
some updates:

custom coil mount with some help from ESR



rebuilt protrax


Offline Skeans1

New Project: YFZ/Banshee Hybrid
« Reply #64 on: July 01, 2016, 11:51:38 AM »
Looking good John, what are you doing for a silencer?

Offline jcs003

New Project: YFZ/Banshee Hybrid
« Reply #65 on: July 01, 2016, 02:38:16 PM »
Quote from: Skeans1;68509
Looking good John, what are you doing for a silencer?

it is a shearer silencer that comes with the pipe.  I am still contemplating the mount.  I had to cut off the mount to have it custom.  i might just make a strap.

any suggestions?

Offline Skeans1

New Project: YFZ/Banshee Hybrid
« Reply #66 on: July 01, 2016, 02:59:58 PM »
Quote from: jcs003;68510
it is a shearer silencer that comes with the pipe.  I am still contemplating the mount.  I had to cut off the mount to have it custom.  i might just make a strap.

any suggestions?
Some aluminum T Bar works great for mounting brackets.

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Offline jcs003

New Project: YFZ/Banshee Hybrid
« Reply #67 on: July 05, 2016, 04:43:17 AM »
progess;



turned out to be 49" wide.

one issue i am having is i cannot fill the radiator as coolant keeps coming out of the brass tube in the center top of the cylinder head.  anyone know about these NOSS machine heads?  

John

Offline jcs003

New Project: YFZ/Banshee Hybrid
« Reply #68 on: September 10, 2016, 10:14:14 AM »
current state.  the exciter 440 intake and smart carb arrived and the intake was modified for the banshee bolt pattern.  I still cannot get the bike to run correctly.

Offline jcs003

New Project: YFZ/Banshee Hybrid
« Reply #69 on: September 10, 2016, 10:16:20 AM »

Offline Skeans1

New Project: YFZ/Banshee Hybrid
« Reply #70 on: September 10, 2016, 04:44:11 PM »
Quote from: jcs003;69491
current state.  the exciter 440 intake and smart carb arrived and the intake was modified for the banshee bolt pattern.  I still cannot get the bike to run correctly.

Get rid of the two into one and the smart carb or do two separate smart carbs John.

Offline jcs003

New Project: YFZ/Banshee Hybrid
« Reply #71 on: September 10, 2016, 04:56:47 PM »
Quote from: Skeans1;69497
Get rid of the two into one and the smart carb or do two separate smart carbs John.

why?

john

Offline Skeans1

New Project: YFZ/Banshee Hybrid
« Reply #72 on: September 10, 2016, 04:58:13 PM »
Quote from: jcs003;69499
why?

john
When I had my banshee one side would be leaner or one side would richer with a two into one, and there's guys that have burned down the motors with the singles.

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Offline Jerry Hall

New Project: YFZ/Banshee Hybrid
« Reply #73 on: September 10, 2016, 08:13:59 PM »
I have only worked on one Banshee with a two into one exhaust system and countless number of Banshees with the Trinity one carb into two cylinder intake manifolds.

 The air flow from these intake manifolds do not fill the reed cage evenly.  There is more flow on the outside of the bend than the flow on the inside of the bend.  When this happens it hurts power and usually causes the outside corners of the reed petals on the outside of the bend to fail prematurely.  Higher flow on the outside of the bend causes the reed petal to start opening first.  When one corner of the petal opens first, that corner tends to make contact with the reed block first when that petal closes.

I have done a lot of testing on the racing jet ski engines that used the two into one and 3 into one exhaust systems.  With enough cylinder development  and twin carb tuning, we could usually get the engines to produce competitive reliable power with the 2 into 1 exhaust.  Two into one exhaust system always favored one cylinder over the other.  When one cylinder is favored over the other cylinder, the pipe's scavenging and return pulse causes the favored cylinder to produce more power and the favored cylinder's piston always ran hotter.  

On the engines that had single carbs and the two into one exhaust systems we usually could not tune both cylinders to produce max power.  If you tuned the single carb so the the weak cylinder could produce max power the favored cylinder would not usually survive.

Two into one exhaust systems that I have worked with usually favored the cylinder whose exhaust gases had to turn the least amount at the bend at the junction at the "Y head pipe" and main pipe body.
« Last Edit: September 11, 2016, 12:07:56 AM by Jerry Hall »

Offline Langbolt

New Project: YFZ/Banshee Hybrid
« Reply #74 on: September 11, 2016, 09:45:11 PM »
Hey John, It looks like your Carb is way to tilted forward.....you need to get the float bowl level so the carb will work properly.....you might be either too lean or too rich with the set up you are currently running.....Maybe find an angled boot ? Did the Exciter have a straight boot ? Maybe another  Snowmobile boot  may work better ?

 

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