Author Topic: Allison Brothers Racing 2016 (Read 17682 times)

2ndmoto · « **Reply #15 on:** January 26, 2016, 09:13:45 PM »

Didn't look like you were being out powered by much. Clean up your lines and dial in the chassis a bit more, you'll be running up front. I wasn't listening to your motor, but how is your gearing?

Allison#51 · « **Reply #16 on:** January 26, 2016, 11:21:20 PM »

Thanks guys!

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Didn't look like you were being out powered by much. Clean up your lines and dial in the chassis a bit more, you'll be running up front. I wasn't listening to your motor, but how is your gearing?

I'm geared down to 14/39 currently because I was having some carb issues and was bogging. It still did bog a little bit Sunday if I didn't keep it wound right up but usually I just barely tap the clutch and it comes out of it. I might go to 14/38 but I'm not using sixth gear currently. I think I need to work on my starts more than anything. I was taking off in third and still spinning. After watching all my film I'd say I'm still a little loose from center off and could probably crank a little more bar into it for more bite. I've never been too tight.. I almost need to crank on the swaybar until it pushes and then back it off a touch and try it. I put it on the scales today and I'm gonna make some adjustments tomorrow. Might need to double check that everything's straight after that hit too.

Allison#51 · « **Reply #17 on:** January 26, 2016, 11:46:52 PM »

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You ran a good race and your motor sounded great but honestly you were being out motored without a doubt. 258cc R vs. 450 cc 4-strokers most likely modded just doesn't equal out. You need a 330 +4 stroker to have the confidence in your quad that u need. Personally I'd love to run my sphinx 363 on that same track with them 450 boys. That would be fun. I know you say your not quite ready for a bigger bore yet but by the looks of your riding ability I'd say you are. At least a 330 +4 stroker. Either way great video and nice riding.

Part of me wants to win some races with a stock cylinder. I just figured it would be more gratifying that way. It's kind of a goal I set but it's turning out to be a bigger challenge then I thought. It's definetly possible but this class is very competitive this season. I have a new pipe coming from Arlen that he's pretty excited about so I'll see how that goes and my SmartCarb is on its way back from Corey doing some updates on it for me and I'm hoping that will fix my issues.

Robsessed86 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 27, 2016, 06:28:06 AM »

All the changes you mentioned should definitely help for sure. Starts and gearing are the 2 biggest thing that could help you. Pipe sounds very nice too. I know what you mean about the shear satisfaction of beating 450's with a stock cylinder. Those boys would be dropping their jaws at that site. It would be nice to see that. I'm excited to see how your next race goes with your changes. You should do well. Your motor sounded clean. Gearing may be your game changer. Good luck and whatever you do stay on top of those R's.

2ndmoto · « **Reply #19 on:** January 28, 2016, 12:28:01 AM »

If you are launching in 3rd and spinning, you will want to work on a few things. Either re-gear or find a better throttle/clutch control combination. Andrew Short (he is a professional motocross racer) is one of the best starters in current mx/sx. He says part of his success comes from 3rd gear starts. He could be full of dookie and trying to throw people off. But the theory is it cuts a shift out and lets you hold hold it in gear longer...but can be abusive on the clutch.

Also you mentioned it has a bog. You should dig into that and figure out the cause. Sounds like you are working on it, but obviously it will help your track performance. Are you lean on the pilot/needle? Have an air leak? Hopefully you are running an open air box.

That does look like a bunch of fun. Do they ever run a full track? Right and left turns?

PNWrider · « **Reply #20 on:** January 28, 2016, 12:43:59 AM »

Just curious, what are the requirements of becoming sponsored and what types of benefits for non pro riders like myself lol

Allison#51 · « **Reply #21 on:** January 29, 2016, 02:06:57 AM »

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If you are launching in 3rd and spinning, you will want to work on a few things. Either re-gear or find a better throttle/clutch control combination. Andrew Short (he is a professional motocross racer) is one of the best starters in current mx/sx. He says part of his success comes from 3rd gear starts. He could be full of dookie and trying to throw people off. But the theory is it cuts a shift out and lets you hold hold it in gear longer...but can be abusive on the clutch.

Also you mentioned it has a bog. You should dig into that and figure out the cause. Sounds like you are working on it, but obviously it will help your track performance. Are you lean on the pilot/needle? Have an air leak? Hopefully you are running an open air box.

That does look like a bunch of fun. Do they ever run a full track? Right and left turns?

Yeah I've been playing with my rear shock compression adjustment as well trying to get it to transfer more weight to the rear on my launch. When you go softer it feels like it tightens me up quite a bit on corner entry though. Gonna keep playing with that and hopefully with this pipe I just got and getting my smartcarb back I can pull a little taller gearing. And just body position and like you said throttle and clutch control. Thing is you can practice starts all day on the lake and feel pretty good about it but go to the track and line up with 10 four pokes and it's a whole different ball game. You can't hear them 258cc's. Lol so it's gonna just take a little bit I think. I had no problem pulling hole shots last year on my brothers LTR. It's part of the challenge with the two strokes. I might take a look at my stud pattern too maybe I can run a few more in. I'm pretty sure it's still sealed up good but I'm gonna do a leak test tomorrow while my pipe and carbs off. The stock airboot is probably holding me back. I've trimmed on it a little and opened up the airbox but I'm anxiously waiting for Troy to finish up his box cause I think that will help me out a lot. The Grand Championship race on lake Pontiac will have a GP course (right and left turns) on Saturday February 13th and oval track on Sunday. I plan on running both. Unfortunately they just cancelled our race this Sunday cause we're expecting rain.. Sucks but I'll have a little more time to work on the setup and save some money. Might just go out and practice Saturday.

Allison#51 · « **Reply #22 on:** January 29, 2016, 02:24:38 AM »

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Just curious, what are the requirements of becoming sponsored and what types of benefits for non pro riders like myself lol

Sent ya a pm

Allison#51 · « **Reply #23 on:** January 30, 2016, 01:56:19 AM »

Some Pipe Porn

Robsessed86 · « **Reply #24 on:** January 30, 2016, 09:05:08 AM »

Damn that is one super sweet R. I'm in love with it. Allison you have great tastes in parts and plastics are shining. Keep it up. Those 4-strokes boys will get intimidated after looking at that quad. Lol

Robsessed86 · « **Reply #25 on:** January 30, 2016, 09:08:52 AM »

After tweaking everything you've mentioned you should be right up there in the front. Let's see a 1st place. Its very attainable with your quad. And then you can enter into the "best of show" contest. You would take 1st for sure.

Allison#51 · « **Reply #26 on:** January 30, 2016, 10:35:58 PM »

Our races got cancelled this weekend cause It's gonna be about 40* tomorrow with rain but we got some practice in today. Hard to get a good feel for my suspension adjustments with the ice so soft. But I'm liking the new pipe and having the smartcarb back on. I'm pretty happy with the quad overall considering it's an mx setup with a swaybar. Gonna be a challenge but I think we can get a win.

Allison#51 · « **Reply #27 on:** January 30, 2016, 10:36:42 PM »

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After tweaking everything you've mentioned you should be right up there in the front. Let's see a 1st place. Its very attainable with your quad. And then you can enter into the "best of show" contest. You would take 1st for sure.

What's this best of show contest?

Allison#51 · « **Reply #28 on:** January 30, 2016, 10:54:39 PM »

From Owosso Friday

2ndmoto · « **Reply #29 on:** January 31, 2016, 01:12:15 AM »

Well that's not good. Note to self, don't take the inside line. Pipe blued up nicely. Love them raw pipes