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Offline DOUGLAS

Re: starting my build
« Reply #30 on: January 16, 2018, 07:32:07 PM »
I will do all that thank you
LED 363 87 stock frame

Offline FerrinMotorsports

Re: starting my build
« Reply #31 on: January 21, 2018, 04:03:52 PM »
Will this build ever leave your garage???....(JK)....LOL ;D

Offline DOUGLAS

Re: starting my build
« Reply #32 on: January 21, 2018, 05:42:06 PM »
hahahahahahahahaha it will. but there better not be any mud when I take it out
LED 363 87 stock frame

Offline jcs003

Re: starting my build
« Reply #33 on: January 22, 2018, 05:22:25 AM »
hahahahahahahahaha it will. but there better not be any mud when I take it out

there is a benefit to all that polished and Pc'd parts.  they clean off much easier than the alternative.

Offline DOUGLAS

Re: starting my build
« Reply #34 on: January 22, 2018, 06:10:09 PM »
06 spindle conversion 87 250r. here's what I came up with.
LED 363 87 stock frame

Offline DOUGLAS

Re: starting my build
« Reply #35 on: January 22, 2018, 06:17:08 PM »
with out the shock in the a arms travel is limited to the angle from the 450 spindle on the tie rod end. if i bottom out the front end with out bending the tie rod the tie rod ends hit there maximum travel. this will barly allow the shock to compress fully.so by adding the bends it changes the range of the suspension for the shock to travel with out it hitting the maximum on the tie rod end
LED 363 87 stock frame

Offline jcs003

Re: starting my build
« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2018, 05:07:17 AM »
with out the shock in the a arms travel is limited to the angle from the 450 spindle on the tie rod end. if i bottom out the front end with out bending the tie rod the tie rod ends hit there maximum travel. this will barly allow the shock to compress fully.so by adding the bends it changes the range of the suspension for the shock to travel with out it hitting the maximum on the tie rod end

looks like you just added two increased points of failure.  those OEM tie rods are weak to start, as I have bent several in the past.  maybe if they are made with chromoly, and properly heat treated, they would suffice.

john

Offline hickwheeler

Re: starting my build
« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2018, 05:55:36 AM »
I'm not sure if I'm saying this right. But putting the bends in the tierod has changed nothing to what will happen when you cycle the suspension. They are still at the same plane. You just made it to were you are not connecting them with a straight line
88 ESR 330 5mil stroke
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Offline Burns363R

Re: starting my build
« Reply #38 on: January 23, 2018, 07:29:48 AM »
You are correct Hickwheeler.  He has not changed the plane.  He would need to raise the flag on the stem or lower it on the spindle to get rid of the bump steer.  You can do a curley que between those tie rod ends and it wont change anything. 

Those tie rod ends are significantly weaker than stock.

As for the comments on the 450r stuff being an upgrade, I would really want to see the racing background of the people using them.  Average joes that dont push there bikes may not noticed bump steer like someone that really pushes the limits. 

I guarantee if you went to any A class /Pro am/Pro rider, and cycle there suspension there will not be any bump steer.  It does make a big difference on the handling of the bike if your doing anything but putting around.
TRX 363R 02- Laeger Narrow Frame/CR500 Link, Motowoz Suspension, Roll Design +4 LT Arms,RPM Dominator +4 axle, LED 363 MX, LED 350G Pipe, 38 A/S CR Ignition

TRX 363R 86- Stock frame(gusseted),KOQ-No Link Swinger, JD MGC LT Arms) Motowoz Shocks, LED 370/350D pipe, 38 A/S Carb, CR Ignition

Offline DOUGLAS

Re: starting my build
« Reply #39 on: January 23, 2018, 08:31:11 AM »
sorry I thought the same thing on the plane as well and after doing the bends it puts the range of motion on a different plane. I only bent I tie rod to experiment. and swaping out the tie rods does make a difference in comparison. I went back and forth with putting in the bent on and the straight one here is the set up moving forward
LED 363 87 stock frame

Offline DOUGLAS

Re: starting my build
« Reply #40 on: January 23, 2018, 08:32:23 AM »
I am thanking you all for your support and knowledge to help me along the way
LED 363 87 stock frame

Offline DOUGLAS

Re: starting my build
« Reply #41 on: January 24, 2018, 05:30:45 PM »
great news arlen called me today he is assembling my motor. but I will have to wait to have it shipped. also my swing arm gas tank and other parts will be finished tomorrow. tonight I leave on a 10 day vacation 2 days in florida and 8 day eastern carribean cruise. Cant wait to leave. Can't wait to get back
LED 363 87 stock frame

Offline DOUGLAS

Re: starting my build
« Reply #42 on: January 24, 2018, 05:31:30 PM »
and another piece of the puzzle has arrived

LED 363 87 stock frame

Offline Sand_Blaster

Re: starting my build
« Reply #43 on: January 24, 2018, 05:43:36 PM »
Sick man. I wish mine was as nice as yours. Keep the updates coming.
87 Trx250r & 99 Banshee

Offline DOUGLAS

Re: starting my build
« Reply #44 on: January 24, 2018, 08:12:00 PM »
they are all nice we are lucky we enjoy riding no matter what we have, thank you
LED 363 87 stock frame