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Offline Burns363R

Re: best +2 +1 a arms for stock frame for woods and dunes
« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2018, 07:27:31 AM »
For my woods bike i run JD MGC LT +2 Arms with 4:1 Rims.  Darting trees is pretty easy.
TRX 363R 02- Laeger Narrow Frame/CR500 Link, Motowoz Suspension, Roll Design +4 LT Arms,RPM Dominator +4 axle, LED 363 MX, LED 350G Pipe, 38 A/S CR Ignition

TRX 363R 86- Stock frame(gusseted),KOQ-No Link Swinger, JD MGC LT Arms) Motowoz Shocks, LED 370/350D pipe, 38 A/S Carb, CR Ignition

Offline supernutt

Re: best +2 +1 a arms for stock frame for woods and dunes
« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2018, 07:31:11 PM »
I just use stock wheels and the width is just fine right now.  Now does lets say a set of JD long travel arms make the bike handle differently than a different brand of long travel arms like Roll Design or Walsh of the same width?  Or is most of it in the durability? 
86r 310 pro-x C-Leigh ported TRX5 CR ignition HLS shocks 38pwk
97 Laeger XC narrow CR500 link +4  t-pin
89 trx250r PEP ported ct mid pipe

Offline croat1

Re: best +2 +1 a arms for stock frame for woods and dunes
« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2018, 08:38:21 PM »
I just use stock wheels and the width is just fine right now.  Now does lets say a set of JD long travel arms make the bike handle differently than a different brand of long travel arms like Roll Design or Walsh of the same width?  Or is most of it in the durability? 

are you using 250R spindles?

Joe

Offline supernutt

Re: best +2 +1 a arms for stock frame for woods and dunes
« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2018, 08:44:00 PM »
Yes
86r 310 pro-x C-Leigh ported TRX5 CR ignition HLS shocks 38pwk
97 Laeger XC narrow CR500 link +4  t-pin
89 trx250r PEP ported ct mid pipe

Offline croat1

Re: best +2 +1 a arms for stock frame for woods and dunes
« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2018, 08:58:37 AM »
So your options are new Walsh (not sure how long you'll wait to get them made). Roll..expensive but nice. JD...best bang for the buck. I say get the JD and then with the money saved to you get even better shocks.  I think all would have to handle the same due to using 250R spindles.

Joe

Offline Tbone07

Re: best +2 +1 a arms for stock frame for woods and dunes
« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2018, 11:21:39 AM »
The new Roll stuff all uses 06+ 450r spindles, per Jed @ Roll. The JD arms use 88-89 250r spindles. Walsh I don't know and it doesn't say it on their website
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Offline Tbone07

Re: best +2 +1 a arms for stock frame for woods and dunes
« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2018, 11:30:05 AM »
Now does lets say a set of JD long travel arms make the bike handle differently than a different brand of long travel arms like Roll Design or Walsh of the same width?  Or is most of it in the durability? 

Handling is a subjective opinion. What could handle perfectly for one person could suck for another. Some people like the twitchy, light feeling of a ProTrax front-end. Some like the solid, planted feel of the Roll. I myself would go for the Roll.

Personally, I'm not a huge fan of the kingpin setup on the Roll front ends. I like the sealed FRAP ball joints like on my JD arms. If I remember correctly, the kingpins from Roll are like $50/piece x 4. That on top of the spherical bearings for the lower arms and the heim joints on the top makes for one really expensive rebuild. Which setup lasts longer? I can't say. The Roll stuff is used by a ton of desert racers and is virtually indestructible, so it's proven. The Roll arms arms are beefy as hell.

I was initially concerned about the toughness of the JD arms I purchased. After all, they were almost half the price of new Roll arms. But I was seriously impressed when I got them. They're some really solid units
LED Performance 350 Sphynx - XC Machine
Laeger's-Roll-GThunder-HLS-PEP-HiPer-GBC

RIP Laz

Offline jcs003

Re: best +2 +1 a arms for stock frame for woods and dunes
« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2018, 11:43:07 AM »
the main difference between the two are the pro-trax has the best ackermann steering geometry. 

this is the issue douglas will be dealing with because of his choice in using 450r spindles.

Offline supernutt

Re: best +2 +1 a arms for stock frame for woods and dunes
« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2018, 06:04:22 PM »
That is good to know about the JD arms because I don't have any 88 or 89 spindles around.  And I figured the roll arms would use 400ex or 450r spindles.   I really love my pro trax but that motor in that quad is way too wild for the woods.  I would buy another one if they were still made and parts were readily available.  But my laeger just does not turn in the snow. It pushes the front end.  Not sure if it is just the way this wide of a machine is or not. 
86r 310 pro-x C-Leigh ported TRX5 CR ignition HLS shocks 38pwk
97 Laeger XC narrow CR500 link +4  t-pin
89 trx250r PEP ported ct mid pipe

Offline Hawgpilot

Re: best +2 +1 a arms for stock frame for woods and dunes
« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2018, 09:43:27 AM »
I've got a set of +2 +1 on order from JD.  Looking forward to getting them. My only complaint is, yesterday was 5 weeks since i ordered them and was told by Debbie, "there was a problem doing candy blue powered so we are doing them again."  So i'm guessing another couple of weeks now.

Offline bnau267

Re: best +2 +1 a arms for stock frame for woods and dunes
« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2018, 10:24:12 PM »
ISF racing has a nice set of +2+1 arms and a swinger for sale - black powder.  Very good price.  Basically Laeger clones but built bu5 a sick fabricator.