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Offline wilkin250r

Heat shielding/tape
« on: May 20, 2018, 03:30:52 AM »
So I'm tired of deformed/melting plastics.  I've got a couple projects I would like to add some heat shielding to.

So my first question is: What are you guys using for heat shielding?

My second question would be an extension of the first.  If you haven't found a good solution, can we come up with a good solution?  I've done a little bit of research on heat shielding tape, but it seems like any decent product I want to try is sold as rolls of tape, costing hundreds of dollars.  I don't want to spend $500 on 45 feet of heat shielding tape if all I need is 1ft, only to throw $480 worth in the trash.

Maybe a group effort?  Like, collectively we all buy a $500 roll of tape, and we cut/ship according to need?  I'm totally willing to put forth the effort to divide according to need/contribution, but I don't like the idea of buying 45ft if I only need 1ft.

Offline jcs003

Re: Heat shielding/tape
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2018, 07:31:21 AM »
try some of the basalt heat shield tape.  there are some with an adhesive side.

Offline desertR

Re: Heat shielding/tape
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2018, 07:11:05 PM »
Look at Summit or JEGS. I've got heat wrap that I've used for years, with good results in both 1" and 2" x 25ft rolls
If you have room, make an aluminum/stainless plate  with 3/8" risers and hose clamp it after wrapping the offending pipe with the wrap.
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Offline jcs003

Re: Heat shielding/tape
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2018, 08:01:31 AM »

Offline atvmxr

Re: Heat shielding/tape
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2018, 11:45:35 AM »
So I'm tired of deformed/melting plastics.  I've got a couple projects I would like to add some heat shielding to.

So my first question is: What are you guys using for heat shielding?

My second question would be an extension of the first.  If you haven't found a good solution, can we come up with a good solution?  I've done a little bit of research on heat shielding tape, but it seems like any decent product I want to try is sold as rolls of tape, costing hundreds of dollars.  I don't want to spend $500 on 45 feet of heat shielding tape if all I need is 1ft, only to throw $480 worth in the trash.

Maybe a group effort?  Like, collectively we all buy a $500 roll of tape, and we cut/ship according to need?  I'm totally willing to put forth the effort to divide according to need/contribution, but I don't like the idea of buying 45ft if I only need 1ft.
Are you not using factory plastics?  OEM has a support brace that goes right over where the silencer bend is that causes most melted plastics. 
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Offline wilkin250r

Re: Heat shielding/tape
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2018, 06:09:43 PM »
A lot of people are posting exhaust wraps. Is that the solution most people are using?  Heat wrap on the exhaust?

I was thinking more along the lines of an aluminum tape on the plastics, similar to the strategy used on OEM plastics on any other ATV.
« Last Edit: May 25, 2018, 06:12:02 PM by wilkin250r »

Offline wilkin250r

Re: Heat shielding/tape
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2018, 06:13:35 PM »
this is what I used in an area where heat was an issue:  https://www.ebay.com/itm/Heatshield-12-x-24-Lava-Mat-Thermal-Barrier-w-Adhesive-770001-1200F-/123111333394?hash=item1caa01de12


Yeah, something like that.  But it seems like the fiber-reinforced doesn't hold quite as long as a true solid aluminum.  Have you had any problems with it peeling off?

Offline sameltoe

Re: Heat shielding/tape
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2018, 04:19:52 PM »
I used a heatshield from a 450r. I think fourwerx also makes a shield.
Dei makes a 1.5" diameter sheath to slide over the pipe, which I was going to try next. Just to clean up the area.
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Offline broken1

Re: Heat shielding/tape
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2018, 06:27:32 PM »
I have some stuff on a couple sets of OEM plastic that were in a parts lot. It's foil backed mastic tape just like your looking for & it wasn't easy to remove. I have no idea how to post pics or I would but someone definitely makes it.
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Offline wilkin250r

Re: Heat shielding/tape
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2018, 07:33:38 PM »
And ideally I think I would want one solid piece, so I would need tape somewhere between 8" and a foot wide.

Have you ever priced aluminum tape a foot wide?  They're out there, but only sold as a full roll, 180ft, and costs about $800.  It works out to be only about $4 per foot, and if I need about a foot and half, I need $6 worth of tape.  I ain't spending $800 if I only need $6 worth.

Offline desertR

Re: Heat shielding/tape
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2018, 11:48:10 PM »
"So my first question is: What are you guys using for heat shielding?

My second question would be an extension of the first.  If you haven't found a good solution, can we come up with a good solution?  I've done a little bit of research on heat shielding tape, but it seems like any decent product I want to try is sold as rolls of tape, costing hundreds of dollars.  I don't want to spend $500 on 45 feet of heat shielding tape if all I need is 1ft, only to throw $480 worth in the trash
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You asked for solutions, and many have provided you with some, but the only solution you seem interested in is yours. IF you were doing a museum quality restoration, I could understand, but then why use something on a quad that will never run. I'll offer one more solution and then I'm done, using 3/16" large flange pop rivets, and some T-0 aluminum, make a heat shield the size you need. Space the aluminum off the plastic with some 3/16" washers, allowing for an air space between the layers and that will take care of it. Best  of luck
desertR

Offline sameltoe

Re: Heat shielding/tape
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2018, 12:37:48 PM »
Dynamat also makes your sticky steel backed tape. Comes in 12"x12" squares. I believe 4 came in the pack I bought at best buy...
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Offline wilkin250r

Re: Heat shielding/tape
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2018, 05:33:45 PM »
The dynamat stuff, from what I can recall, was a really thin aluminum.  In fact, almost anything I was able to find for automotive applications was fine for the inside of a firewall, floor, or door panel, but really wasn't capable of surviving the environment of your inner fenders.

Offline jcs003

Re: Heat shielding/tape
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2018, 05:54:18 PM »
the material i mentioned earlier, works very well.  i use it where a pipe is very close to the radiator.  there was no peeling of the material at all.