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Offline evaneyeball

what paddle haulers do you run
« on: March 28, 2020, 03:38:55 AM »
what paddle tires do you like the best and reccomend. im in the market for some new paddles and i like the haulers best but am leaning twords the 8 or 9 paddle but i cant find any site or thread that says the ups and downs to more or less paddles. and what would a 10 paddle extreme hauler do on a 250r with a pretty much stock bore and a race gas dome and a fmf pipe and 38mm carb and a 150lbs rider doing mainly tree shots, hill climbs and sand trails. i already have front mowhawks.
LED built 86 trx 350 CEO
81 ATC250r
Zero finesse and alot of throttle

Offline evaneyeball

Re: what paddle haulers do you run
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2020, 03:42:14 AM »
oh and i hate side hilling
LED built 86 trx 350 CEO
81 ATC250r
Zero finesse and alot of throttle

Online The norm

Re: what paddle haulers do you run
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2020, 12:39:50 PM »
So this is one of those questions that can start a debate that will last forever! You can over paddle an R and you can under paddle your R. A trx250r has a 2 stroke engine and a 2 stroke engine makes power with rpm. If you have too many paddles and the engine can't make rpm you will not be able to climb anything. Rider weight, skill, and gearing play a role in this as well. A tire that works for you won't necessarily work for me.
Another thing to consider is the cylinder porting. What is the cylinder ported for?  If it's a high rpm porting and you have 10 paddle 22's on your R you will not be able to utilize the power curve of a high rpm screamer.
Now I have seen people run too many paddles without any issue because they knew how to manipulate their machine. Does that mean everyone can? No!
I think for a mildly ported cylinder, regardless of fuel octane, a rider your size, and the type of riding you do you can safely run a 7-8 paddle hauler. I would not run anything other than a 20 inch tall tire on your R. My boys are both decent riders, 12&13 years old, 130-155 lbs. They have mildly ported cylinders with fmf pipes, 38mm carbs, and 92 octane fuel.  They both run 20x10x8 8 paddle haulers.
Loren
1986 Trx250r-- Hybrid Engineering 391(Good bye super 310)
1986 Trx250r-- Hybrid Engineering  ported stock 86 cylinder
1986 Trx250r-- craigslist engine with unknown ported 89 cylinder.
1985 Atc250r-- Needs a lot of work (Super 310's new home)

Offline evaneyeball

Re: what paddle haulers do you run
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2020, 01:06:04 PM »
thanks ill go with 8 paddles then. i was feeling a little under paddles with 8 but the paddles themselves are only about 3/4 of an inch tall
« Last Edit: March 28, 2020, 01:17:59 PM by evaneyeball »
LED built 86 trx 350 CEO
81 ATC250r
Zero finesse and alot of throttle

Online The norm

Re: what paddle haulers do you run
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2020, 01:33:22 PM »
What gearing are you using? 13/38?
1986 Trx250r-- Hybrid Engineering 391(Good bye super 310)
1986 Trx250r-- Hybrid Engineering  ported stock 86 cylinder
1986 Trx250r-- craigslist engine with unknown ported 89 cylinder.
1985 Atc250r-- Needs a lot of work (Super 310's new home)

Offline evaneyeball

Re: what paddle haulers do you run
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2020, 01:45:59 PM »
i think its stock but let me check that. the front sprocket is the wrong sprocket so im getting a new one and the old rear one is bent slightly but still works
LED built 86 trx 350 CEO
81 ATC250r
Zero finesse and alot of throttle

Offline evaneyeball

Re: what paddle haulers do you run
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2020, 01:53:46 PM »
it is 13/38 gearing but like i said i need to get all new ones. and i found on my search a set of 10 paddles extremes that are pretty much brand new for 200 and just if anyone wants them or if you think i would be able to run them probably not and theyre on honda bolt pattern rims 20x10x10
LED built 86 trx 350 CEO
81 ATC250r
Zero finesse and alot of throttle

Offline 2ndmoto

Re: what paddle haulers do you run
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2020, 12:51:18 PM »
I ran 8 paddle haulers on my 265 kit. That is when I was a little closer to your riding weight. They preformed well. Moving to larger displacement motors I went to a 9 paddle.

I do remember then having clearance issues on tree shots. The sand can get really soft and deep. The power was there, but I would get high centered at the bearing carrier. Running taller side walls would help out if tree shots are your thing. Also running a wider bike creates some challenges in tree shots, they tend to get pulled in and out of the ruts. Requires a bit more rider input to keep them tracking correctly

Offline broken1

Re: what paddle haulers do you run
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2020, 01:20:57 PM »
I have 2 mostly stock R's with oem cylinders & run 20x10x10 8 paddle haulers, 20x10x10 10 paddle edges & 20x11x10 sand skate 2's & like them all. Also have a set of 21x12x10 stagger cut padla brats but haven't tried them out yet.

Offline evaneyeball

Re: what paddle haulers do you run
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2020, 02:11:14 PM »
so you run 20x10x10 10 paddle edges with no problem. cause im looking at a really cheap pair of 20x10x10 10 paddle extreme haulers
« Last Edit: March 29, 2020, 03:12:35 PM by evaneyeball »
LED built 86 trx 350 CEO
81 ATC250r
Zero finesse and alot of throttle

Offline broken1

Re: what paddle haulers do you run
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2020, 08:23:07 PM »
Skat trak edges are v paddles like sand skates but there not as good as sand skates so with the edges it takes more paddles to get the job done. The 10 paddle edges are comparable to the standard 8 paddle haulers which are similar to a sand skate 2... For what your wanting an 8 or 9 paddle standard hauler should work well. 10 paddle extreme's might be a bit much but you could gear for it.
« Last Edit: March 29, 2020, 08:24:47 PM by broken1 »

Offline evaneyeball

Re: what paddle haulers do you run
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2020, 08:26:49 PM »
thanks i did not know that i did look at the skat trak website and it they made it seem like it was just a hauler with a v instead of just a straight paddle and worked the same
LED built 86 trx 350 CEO
81 ATC250r
Zero finesse and alot of throttle

Offline broken1

Re: what paddle haulers do you run
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2020, 08:41:00 PM »
Generally v paddles are for play riding & throwing it around & straight paddles are for maximum forward traction.

Offline evaneyeball

Re: what paddle haulers do you run
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2020, 11:27:15 PM »
so what gearing should i do because i need new a new front and back sprocket
LED built 86 trx 350 CEO
81 ATC250r
Zero finesse and alot of throttle

Offline desertR

Re: what paddle haulers do you run
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2020, 02:53:09 AM »
Steel sprockets and a good chain, "O" ring or "X" ring, but not cheap. I run DID chains on everything I own, I have never had one fail. Keep it adjusted and lubed, and it will never let you down. I run them on my Italian crap too, and you don't want case damage on anything. I like master-link style for off road, and always carry a spare master link, and rivet type on my street stuff. Spend your money on good chain guides, followers, and rollers, and they will pay for themselves, Maybe a sprocket guard if you have already bent what you have. I'm not shy, I run one, along with a rotor guard.
desertR

 

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