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Offline Texas30cal

Broken 88 swingarm
« on: September 22, 2021, 07:51:30 PM »
Another setback today, I started tearing into the swingarm and found a big problem. How common is this

Offline broken1

Re: Broken 88 swingarm
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2021, 09:24:30 PM »
When you loosened the cinch bolts the swingarm came apart like that? The break is so clean it looks like it was made that way

Offline Texas30cal

Re: Broken 88 swingarm
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2021, 09:32:34 PM »
Yes sir, when I stripped the bike down I just pulled the swingarm and set it on the floor, never turned it over 🤦‍♂️, you can see where the break is dirty and the small clean areas where it broke last.

Offline 2ndmoto

Re: Broken 88 swingarm
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2021, 11:45:10 PM »
I have never seen that failure before

Offline Texas30cal

Re: Broken 88 swingarm
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2021, 05:59:00 PM »
Pics of the repair, I milled a bevel on it almost all the way through , still can reach a little more inside and going mill the outside nearly flush then put another pass on top. I know the swingarm was probably heat treated after welding and this won’t be but I’m not riding it like I’m 17 again either .
« Last Edit: September 23, 2021, 06:04:12 PM by Texas30cal »

Online The norm

Re: Broken 88 swingarm
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2021, 08:28:06 PM »
Yes that swingarm was heat treated after all welding was complete. I have seen several aluminum swingarms welded after they break or crack. I have also seen them extended both cast and fabricated. I don't know what happened to all of them, but some of them broke. I watched as a young man almost got seriously hurt when his modified aluminum swingarm broke.  I would personally find a good used aftermarket swingarm. I am not just spouting off here. I have 20+ years working in fabrication and welding. Welding that swingarm is like playing Russian roulette!
Loren
1986 Trx250r-- Hybrid Engineering 391(Good bye super 310)
1986 Trx250r-- Hybrid Engineering  ported stock 86 cylinder
1986 Trx250r-- craigslist engine with unknown ported 89 cylinder.
1985 Atc250r-- Needs a lot of work (Super 310's new home)

Offline Texas30cal

Re: Broken 88 swingarm
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2021, 09:28:52 AM »
I’ve got lots of years in machine shops myself and that’s the plan, I’m going to get it together and keep my eyes open for a nice replacement. If it had been the top side that was broken I wouldn’t have even attempted it.
« Last Edit: September 24, 2021, 10:15:08 AM by Texas30cal »

Offline atvmxr

Re: Broken 88 swingarm
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2021, 11:26:40 AM »
i have never seen that.  usually its up front around the swingarm bolt
Bunch of race quads that run on premix

Offline Texas30cal

Re: Broken 88 swingarm
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2021, 02:13:36 AM »
I haven’t been around these for a long time but seen many others, I can’t imagine why this happened unless it was possibly a bad extrusion to start with.

Online The norm

Re: Broken 88 swingarm
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2021, 12:31:24 PM »
The aluminum used for swingarms is not flexible for the most part. Steel and chromoly have a elasticity that makes them superior for swingarms, A-arms, and frames.  So if you think about the lack of elasticity in the aluminum and you think about the aluminum bearing carrier being difficult to remove. My first thought is that someone down the line put a little too much leverage on the carrier clamping are trying to remove the carrier.
All the aluminum that I have had to bend in my career has either been an aluminum that is freely bendable or I have had to anneal it before bending. Then after it gets formed the aluminum gets sent out for heat treatment.
Loren
1986 Trx250r-- Hybrid Engineering 391(Good bye super 310)
1986 Trx250r-- Hybrid Engineering  ported stock 86 cylinder
1986 Trx250r-- craigslist engine with unknown ported 89 cylinder.
1985 Atc250r-- Needs a lot of work (Super 310's new home)

 

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