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Workshop => Suspension and Chassis => Topic started by: zcarlson12 on October 31, 2013, 07:07:44 PM

Title: Long Travel
Post by: zcarlson12 on October 31, 2013, 07:07:44 PM
I currently have standard travel PEP ZPS front shocks with Laeger standard travel a-arms. After next season I'll probably go with Laeger long travel a-arms which means long travel shocks. Can I have my standard travel shocks built into long travel? Thanks.
Title: Long Travel
Post by: trx250scar on October 31, 2013, 08:03:34 PM
I am not a shock builder but I would say no. The benefit of the long travel is the ability to have more valving inside the shock. With your standard travel you will be to short for the proper valving. Also your standard shocks are about 16" were the long travel is 18.5-20".
Title: Long Travel
Post by: zcarlson12 on October 31, 2013, 08:23:21 PM
I understand what you are saying and it makes sense. I just wasn't sure if it would be possible and maybe cheaper by changing out parts in the shock rather than buying a completely new set.
Title: Long Travel
Post by: fearlessfred on October 31, 2013, 08:59:18 PM
scar is correct.the body of the shock is not long enough to use the longer shaft needed
Title: Long Travel
Post by: zcarlson12 on October 31, 2013, 09:36:45 PM
That's true Dan. The current front end is very nice, no complaints, it's light and has a great set of shocks on it that I just had rebuilt by Baldwin for next season. The only reason I was thinking about changing was that with my narrow frame the +2 a-arms are really only +1 so I'm losing some width on the front. I was going to go with +3 the next time around and if I was getting all new a-arms I thought I'd go the long travel route. I guess I could always get the +3 standard travel and have the shocks revalved for the longer a-arms.

Thanks to you as well fred.
Title: Long Travel
Post by: Burns363R on October 31, 2013, 09:54:29 PM
Just depends on your riding level.  Most riders do not need LT.  Nor will the be able to take advantage of the benefits.  But if you have the money for them and are already making changes to your suspension,  it's worth considering.  I have never seen +3 ST arms.
Title: Long Travel
Post by: zcarlson12 on October 31, 2013, 10:02:01 PM
Another good point, thanks Kyle. Not doubting you but check out the link below, you can order them +0 to +3 it looks like.

http://www.laegerracing.com/component/virtuemart/14/1/a-arms/race-a-arms-standard-travel-detail?Itemid=0
Title: Long Travel
Post by: Burns363R on October 31, 2013, 10:12:19 PM
Good to know.  Theres no reason you cant do ST +3.  Just hadnt seen it.  Good luck.
Title: Long Travel
Post by: zcarlson12 on October 31, 2013, 10:31:29 PM
I'm not turning pro any time soon so that's probably the route I'll go. Good luck in the 2014 season Burns.
Title: Long Travel
Post by: Hawaiiysr on November 01, 2013, 02:45:38 AM
Really? All my quads have +3s.

Kyle, so your running ST on all your quads? All my quads have ST set ups. I have 2 sets of LT arms on the side. I want set them up but the cost of LT shocks are expensive.  For one set I need shocks 21" long! I'm just curious as to what your running.

Nice work on your season. Way to represent our "old" quads:)
Title: Long Travel
Post by: Burns363R on November 01, 2013, 06:53:38 AM
I have LT on my MX bike.  I wouldnt have it any other way.  But for my XC bike i still run ST shocks.  I actually have rebuilt 450R shocks on +2 arms for my XC bike.  They work good, but im sure there is better out there.  Just not for the money i have invested.
Title: Long Travel
Post by: Tbone07 on November 01, 2013, 08:21:48 AM
zcarlson....read what Laz has to say about the long-travel "myth".

http://www.gtthunder.com/Product/aarms.html
Title: Long Travel
Post by: zcarlson12 on November 01, 2013, 10:56:49 AM
Thanks Tbone, another good piece of advise. When we going riding man?!
Title: Long Travel
Post by: Tbone07 on November 01, 2013, 11:07:18 AM
Bike just got torn down lol. Next spring when I get everything back together we'll go riding.

Where exactly are you located?
Title: Long Travel
Post by: zcarlson12 on November 01, 2013, 11:31:36 AM
ok sounds good, Lexington KY. It takes me about an hour and a half to get to the north side of Cincy.
Title: Long Travel
Post by: Hawaiiysr on November 01, 2013, 04:20:55 PM
Kyle what are you running on the rear of your mx quad? Another reason that stops me from going LT is the rear. Whats the point of LT front and to the rear? I run stock frames so shock position ie mounts are said need to be moved. Upper shock mount moved up and or no link swing arm.  The more I talk about it the less I'm intrested in going LT
Title: Long Travel
Post by: Burns363R on November 01, 2013, 04:29:34 PM
I run a CR500 link.  Unless your an all out racer i dont think its worth the money as far as bang for your buck.  Its nice to have, and looks purdy.  Its only going to a make a difference for those guys purley racing there bikes.   I would spend the money for them on my XC bike.  I use it for harescrambles and play riding.  

My MX bike is a track bike only.