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Title: 86 brake plate 85 housing?
Post by: Iceracer on November 16, 2013, 10:45:16 AM

Somewhere along the line someone swapped swing arms on a 86R I picked up they put on a 85 swingarm.  It came with no rear brake parts. So I found a complete 86 setup.
Just need to know if the carrier is the same dia for both brake plates.  I would measure or just try it, but there's nothing left of the shoulder to measure.

Title: 86 brake plate 85 housing?
Post by: 05450r on November 16, 2013, 10:55:34 AM

Im pretty sure you will have to use an 86 carrier. Im sure an Atc guy will chime in.

Title: 86 brake plate 85 housing?
Post by: KASEY on November 16, 2013, 07:56:49 PM

THESE ARE THE PARTS YOU WILL NEED TO BUILD 85 BRAKES  the caliper is the same as 86 .. I have spares if you need them,,

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/DSC02703.jpg)

Title: 86 brake plate 85 housing?
Post by: KASEY on November 16, 2013, 07:57:50 PM

Quote from: 05450r;17634

Im pretty sure you will have to use an 86 carrier. Im sure an Atc guy will chime in.

I am pretty sure you CAN'T USE A 86 CARRIER ,,,,  85 is one year only....

Title: 86 brake plate 85 housing?
Post by: 05450r on November 16, 2013, 08:41:46 PM

Quote from: kasey;17662

I am pretty sure you CAN'T USE A 86 CARRIER ,,,,  85 is one year only....

Correct, I thought he meant he was switching back to 86 brakes and swinger and would need the 86 carrier

Title: 86 brake plate 85 housing?
Post by: KASEY on November 16, 2013, 09:29:48 PM

the brake plate behind the snap ring is the same diameter but the 85 will not work on the 86 setup

Title: 86 brake plate 85 housing?
Post by: mennis1971 on November 16, 2013, 09:49:03 PM

Isn't the 85 carrier a smaller OD than the 86? Caliper is the same tho. Carrier IS a 1 year only thing. Honda was great about that stuff in 85 :( (I have a 85 atc250r and 85 cr500, among other toys).

Title: 86 brake plate 85 housing?
Post by: KASEY on November 17, 2013, 12:28:38 AM

Quote from: mennis1971;17670

Isn't the 85 carrier a smaller OD than the 86? Caliper is the same tho. Carrier IS a 1 year only thing. Honda was great about that stuff in 85 :( (I have a 85 atc250r and 85 cr500, among other toys).

THE BOSS THAT THE BRAKE PLATE RIDES ON IS THE SAME DIAMETER,, its the carrier surface that rides in the swingarm that is smaller  on the 85 carrier,,,

Title: 86 brake plate 85 housing?
Post by: mennis1971 on November 17, 2013, 10:33:38 AM

I didn't know about the boss part, just that the carrier itself is smaller. That's what I was trying to say. You'll need the parts he showed you to make it work. Listen to Kasey, I'll admit he def knows more than me, especially on trike stuff.

Title: 86 brake plate 85 housing?
Post by: Iceracer on November 19, 2013, 06:16:38 PM

OK great that's the answer I was looking for.  I should be able to use the 85 carrier with 86 stuff. If I weld the bung  to the side, if not I just need to get a Couple pieces.

Title: 86 brake plate 85 housing?
Post by: KASEY on November 19, 2013, 09:33:52 PM

YEP IF YOUR GOING TO WELD A PIN ON THE SWINGER ,,,  just make sure you mount everything up for placement of the pin, or you might not be able to get the lower bolt in,,,,