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Workshop => Engine and Bottom End => Topic started by: havinnoj on December 25, 2013, 07:03:57 PM
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Anybody have experience or more info on this? Haven't seen one of these boxes tested either - anyone know the timing curve?
Honda TRX250R CR250 2007 Ignition (http://www.eddie-sanders-racing.com/product_p/trx250-cr2007-ing.htm)
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Anybody have experience or more info on this? Haven't seen one of these boxes tested either - anyone know the timing curve?
Honda TRX250R CR250 2007 Ignition (http://www.eddie-sanders-racing.com/product_p/trx250-cr2007-ing.htm)
I too am curious about this. Might have to sell my 2001 ignition to fund this
-Brett-
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I too am curious about this. Might have to sell my 2001 ignition to fund this
-Brett-
I'd stick with your 2001 cr ignition vs. buying this, presuming that's what you have.
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I too am curious about this. Might have to sell my 2001 ignition to fund this
Not sure I'd sell a 2001 to try a 2007..
I'd stick with your 2001 cr ignition vs. buying this, presuming that's what you have.
Have you tried a 2007 Vader?
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I'd stick with your 2001 cr ignition vs. buying this, presuming that's what you have.
Yes sir, Bought it way back in 2008. single best mod I did to my R. I just assumed newer was better, even though they are both a digital ignition
-Brett-
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wow! thats quite a bit more expensive than the 2001 cr250 ignition. i paid $490 new for the 2001, 4 years ago on sale.
john
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WoW! I guess I'd better jump on the next used 01 I see for sale.
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the 2001 still has the best curve for our 250r engines, there are alot more components in play with the 2002 or never cr ignitions due to power valve connections integrated in the harness. the 2000 or 2001 ignitions are no longer available new from Honda , Bdt is probably the only place you can still buy one. You can also look around on craigslist for cr part outs, and buy them cheap. i just bought 2 ignitions yesterday all complete.
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Don't forget about the CR500 ignitions from Service Honda. I believe RSSS396 did a write-up on this not too long ago. I'll have to find it
I can't believe the cost of the '07 kit. That's bullshit
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yea 739 is steep
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When you look at that link posted that is what you should expect the parts of a new Genuine Honda OEM ignition kit to look like, in Honda OEM Factory packaging. It is too bad that the price went up but I believe it is only 40.00 more then the 700.00 ziplock and saran wrap 01 being sold. If you are going to buy a new kit the 740.00 07 vs the 700.00 01 doesn't seem to sting as much as it would if the 600.00 01 kit was still available. Another thing about the newer kits is that in the future you will be able to get a genuine honda replacement component if you ever need it.
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there is an 03 ignition on feebay right now for 215 dirt cheap , it is complete all u need is eddies 02 to 07 adaptor plate he has for sale online.
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just thought i would post ,there is a 2001 cr ignition on ebay item number 390732973129 its the full harness, stator, flywheel , and cdi ,,,, NO COIL
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Not sure I'd sell a 2001 to try a 2007..
Have you tried a 2007 Vader?
No, but I have a complete spare 02 CR 250 ignition w/ timing plate. I lent the 02 to rsss396 to test a few months ago and he did a thread on it. The thing I like about the 00-01 ignition is the simplicity. The 02 has additional wiring and a larger CDI that make it less compact and messy to mount up to an ATC. The TRX would be easier to mount up an 02-07 though.
Instead of paying $740 I would watch eBay and craiglist to piece together an 00-01 cr ignition if you can't find a whole setup below $400. Also in Phoenix I see complete 00-01 CR 250 bikes sell for $1000 < $1500 so you could buy a bike, pull the ignition, and buy a $75 ESR timing plate. Then part out the cr 250 and you could probably net out a free ignition if you took the time w/ the CR 250 part out.
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X2 Vader , i think we are lucky here in AZ part outs a common and cr250r are for sale everyday by the dozen
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No, but I have a complete spare 02 CR 250 ignition w/ timing plate. I lent the 02 to rsss396 to test a few months ago and he did a thread on it. The thing I like about the 00-01 ignition is the simplicity. The 02 has additional wiring and a larger CDI that make it less compact and messy to mount up to an ATC. The TRX would be easier to mount up an 02-07 though.
The ESR timing plate covers 2002-2007. Dave did the map of the 2002 in http://trx250r.org/showthread.php?96-Ign-maps . Yes, they more expensive new and in time ebay prices will go up. But if you act now the system can be bought for around $300-$400.
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When you look at that link posted that is what you should expect the parts of a new Genuine Honda OEM ignition kit to look like, in Honda OEM Factory packaging. It is too bad that the price went up but I believe it is only 40.00 more then the 700.00 ziplock and saran wrap 01 being sold. If you are going to buy a new kit the 740.00 07 vs the 700.00 01 doesn't seem to sting as much as it would if the 600.00 01 kit was still available. Another thing about the newer kits is that in the future you will be able to get a genuine honda replacement component if you ever need it.
excellent point. that scam-artist(the coc) is possibly driving up everyone's prices. ESR is honest so they extra $40 is worth it.
john
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keep it real. the 2001 is the best cr ignition for the r at the moment. the 02 to 07 is got a lot more parts than the 2001, cdi is not as good. dont care for the coc, did get a new cr 01 ignition from bdt last month everything was in original honda packaging. lets go after him, not make shit up.
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So the 02 cdi curve is the same as the 07?
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the 2001 is the best cr ignition for the r at the moment. the 02 to 07 is got a lot more parts than the 2001, cdi is not as good.
Why do you say the 02-07 CDI is not as good as the 01?
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So the 02 cdi curve is the same as the 07?
Dave only tested the 02 and 03. If someone gets a later year Dave will run the curve for us.
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read rss396 post on 02-03 ignition. called eddie last month said the 01 was better than 02-07. just going by what I read and told.
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eddie said he would sell the 01 if honda had them. the 07 is only what he can get.
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read rss396 post on 02-03 ignition. called eddie last month said the 01 was better than 02-07. just going by what I read and told.
Yes, thats the way I see it also. Just was not sure if even though the 2001 is the best for our bikes that the newer ones are any worse performance wise.
What I mean is are we going to see any drop in performance using the 2007 verses the 2001?
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the thing that needs to be looked at is the circuit powering the pv. and trying to see if its possible to power a small lighting circuit, instead of the relay circuits...
it might take some retrofitting a different reg/rec and load testing.. but its something that needs to be examined
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So the 02 cdi curve is the same as the 07?
I believe every year is different between 2002 and 2007. I had 2002 and 2003 CDIs that rsss tested and the 2002 curve was good (Similar to the 00 and 01) but the 2003 curve sucked. I haven't seen the 2007 tested yet.
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I believe every year is different....... the 2002 curve was good
Thats what I was asking about. May be not the best but still works for our application.
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Whats the "coc''?
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what we call our little friend at bdt. cockroach of cucamonga. coc.
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I believe every year is different between 2002 and 2007. I had 2002 and 2003 CDIs that rsss tested and the 2002 curve was good (Similar to the 00 and 01) but the 2003 curve sucked. I haven't seen the 2007 tested yet.
Ok sounds like we're all on the same page. 01 is preferred since we know the specs but nobody has used an 07 firsthand. Who's going to be the guinea pig?
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Will the 07 cdi plug into a 03 setup? or do you need to have the stator/flywheel of the same year?
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them poor sapps on .net. really swingin on the nuts. god bless em for not knowin any better
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would the cr125r for any of the previously discussed years work on the trx250r?
john
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would the cr125r for any of the previously discussed years work on the trx250r?
john
The CR125 CDI sounds like it yields some benefits.
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The CR125 CDI sounds like it yields some benefits.
for some... think what a 125cc motor runs like higher quicker rev, the 125 cdi is both responsible and matched for this type of output,
might not be ideal for all,
it all depends on what your ported for and timed for and piped for...Ive got both a CR125cc and a CR250cc cdi, and im curious which will suite my needs as well ....
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I have both 01 CR 125 and 01 CR 250 CDIs mounted on my TRX. I swap back and forth all the time. The CR 125 CDI Has a little more bottom end but it's harder to start. The CR 250 CDI Has a little more overrev and it is easier to kickstart.