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Title: mobile al
Post by: Redneckcustoms13 on January 13, 2014, 03:13:52 PM
My name is Hunter, im an equipment mechanic down in mobile al. I have a few questions about a 250r I got a little while back. If anyone could help me out I would appreciate it greatly.
Guy I got it from says the engine was built by norris Quinn.
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Title: mobile al
Post by: rablack21 on January 13, 2014, 03:29:30 PM
What would you like to know?
Title: mobile al
Post by: Redneckcustoms13 on January 13, 2014, 04:56:16 PM
Anything you can tell from the attached images. What parts you see, possibly who used to own it or built it, contact for norris Quinn so I can ask about the engine. Its a mean little feller but I hate not to know what's done to it.
Title: mobile al
Post by: Pumashine on January 13, 2014, 05:29:08 PM
Looks like you got a stock cylinder with a name written on it. Don't have any idea who he is or what he did. If you look real close to tell if you are using the .010" cr250r head gasket. If it is you will need to run race gas or you will fry the piston.
Title: mobile al
Post by: Redneckcustoms13 on January 13, 2014, 08:17:49 PM
Not trying to come off as an ass, but you don't know who Norris Quinn is? From what I have researched and heard for years he is one of the guys that had a big hand in hot ridding r's all throughout the 80's and 90's. Do I need to mic the head gasket to see of its the one your talking about? Sorry im a diesel mechanic, been years since I messed with anything two stroke. Especially one that isn't stock.
Title: mobile al
Post by: Redneckcustoms13 on January 13, 2014, 08:38:53 PM
Thanks to c-Leigh racing, rablack21, and scawn on the 250r.net I now have contact information for mr Quinn. Ill be giving him a call tomorrow and hopefully we can find out a little more about the history of the bike or atleast the internals of the engine.
Title: mobile al
Post by: Pumashine on January 13, 2014, 08:49:46 PM
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Not trying to come off as an ass, but you don't know who Norris Quinn is?
No I don't and neither do you so I guess were equal there. Just trying to give you a heads up on a non stock gasket. Don't have to mic it either, you can see if its a stock gasket or not by the thickness. I am glad you got some history on your builder! But most of us run by seat of the pants experience. Chances are if you think you need to know the history you can pull the cylinder in less time than we are chating. c-Leigh racing, rablack21, are members here also. Good luck!
Title: mobile al
Post by: Redneckcustoms13 on January 13, 2014, 08:57:18 PM
My problems with snagging it apart ore two things. First i wouldnt know what is and isn't oem parts. And second is Work and a 2 year old occupy most of my time. And id hate to tear into it and not be able to put it back together the same evening and leave it vulnerable to water and dirt or anything else that could manage to find its way in there while im not home. Can't wait to see what is found out tomorrow.
Title: mobile al
Post by: Wes350x on January 13, 2014, 09:12:44 PM
Check your compression. That helps determine if you need higher octane fuel for iit and if it may need a rebuild.  Look at the head gasket as pumashine said, if it's super thin, Like maybe foil..? Then it's a cr gasket and needs higher octane fuel. If it's the thickness of a penny then your good with regular pump gas...use non-eth. Take that restrictive bent fuel line off, ditch the fuel filter and put a new fuel line then ride.
Title: mobile al
Post by: Redneckcustoms13 on January 13, 2014, 09:30:10 PM
Hg looks like a standard thickness. Or atleast its about the same as what I run on a 2.5 merc outboard lol
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What's this aluminum spacer looking device? (http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt128/redneckcustoms13/photobucket-67583-1389666260220.jpg)
And here's the fuel line. Its a 3/8 line with a rock filter, you. Guys don't think it's a good idea to have a filter? (http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt128/redneckcustoms13/photobucket-54883-1389666258449.jpg)
Title: mobile al
Post by: Pumashine on January 13, 2014, 10:49:27 PM
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Guys don't think it's a good idea to have a filter?
There is one OEM already in the tank. Don't remove that one without cleaning your tank first. But those little filters are restrictive. 1/4" ID
Title: mobile al
Post by: Hawaiiysr on January 13, 2014, 11:58:25 PM
Welcome to the forum. I see...

Moose case saver
Fox front shocks. Looks 1st gen
Moose front bumper
 Access skid plate
Moose nerf bars
Aluminum radiator shrouds
Anti-fade lock nut
Steering stem is aftermarket I don't know the make but I seen it before
Looks like you have a wrist wrestle on the stem
Your exhaust is aftermarket. Can't say for sure but I would say CT. And the silencer is mismatch

You have a long rod crank so the spacer is needed to align the ports.

Hope that helps some. Now go make them new tires old
Title: mobile al
Post by: 05450r on January 14, 2014, 12:22:54 AM
Leager stem, Im sure a guy with a pro trax front end would love to have that.. And I dig the air cooled Atc!
Title: mobile al
Post by: rablack21 on January 14, 2014, 08:11:46 AM
Sounds like you got lots of good advice there Hunter. Norris Quinn is still involved in motosports and the 250R world. He still builds engines, 2 and 4 stroke, and builds shocks. I have been told that he still does Joe Byrd's shocks. He has been building and servicing my shocks for the last year and also sponsors our atv motocross series.
Title: mobile al
Post by: Redneckcustoms13 on January 14, 2014, 08:38:27 AM
Thanks for all the responses and info guys. Im gonna give him a call today maybe he can let me in on what's inside of it.
Title: mobile al
Post by: pinned250r on January 14, 2014, 09:17:37 AM
Calling Quinn will help, but he's not going to be able to identify a motor without at minimum some pics of the port or head work. Builders do more than 1 kind of port based on the type of riding the rider does. So it could be anything from an mx port(lots of low to mid power) to a dune or drag port(mostly top end pull). pulling the cylinder is a 1/2 hour job at the most.
1) drain coolant(drain bolt at the bottom or water pump, be sure to remove radiator cap)
2) remove carb
3) Remove headstay
4) Remove base nuts
5) pull cylinder off.

You can just leave the piston on the rod.
If quinn wants pics of the head, i would remove the head before loosening the base nuts.

Lastly, you should sell me those black baja rims! haha.
Title: mobile al
Post by: Redneckcustoms13 on January 14, 2014, 10:33:21 AM
Talked to norris, a stand up guy. Told me all kind of information helping me identify what the bike is and difference in years and what everything is on it. He wad extremely helpful and nice as he could be. Turns out to be a 86 chassis, 86 swing arm, has an jug that he ported and x1 stands for a mild port job resulting in a good all around engine for cross country type racing. It has an 87 up crank and rod running an 86 piston. Its a laeger stem and factory spindles. Lonestar rear axle, not sure what the exhaust is. Thanks for all the help guys. Now knowing what it is makes me feel little more comfortable riding it.
Title: mobile al
Post by: Redneckcustoms13 on January 14, 2014, 10:35:03 AM
Pinned, they were on sale as a package from Motorsports last december. The whole set of holeshots and wheels were $400 they actually belong to a buddy that runs a z400 that's is down right now.
Title: mobile al
Post by: Redneckcustoms13 on January 14, 2014, 10:38:14 AM
Quote from: 05450r;22254
Leager stem, Im sure a guy with a pro trax front end would love to have that.. And I dig the air cooled Atc!

Thanks, it's blast to ride. Whole different animal than this one.
Title: mobile al
Post by: rablack21 on January 14, 2014, 10:38:22 AM
The pipe kinda looks like a CT Racing pipe with an old FMF Powercore silencer.
Title: mobile al
Post by: Redneckcustoms13 on January 14, 2014, 11:46:12 AM
That's what I have thought from looking at different ones. Fixing to repack that rig and go ride. Kids at school and womans at work I took off to go hunt but it rained. Might as well go ride.
Title: mobile al
Post by: C-Leigh Racing on January 14, 2014, 01:46:37 PM
So Quinn is back home ?.
Did you by chance, ask him if it was an R that Houston had at one time.
Neil
Title: mobile al
Post by: Redneckcustoms13 on January 15, 2014, 10:18:52 AM
He's in Georgia, I forgot to ask him about houston. However he could tell a whole lot about the engine from the markings that were on it. And could tell almost every aftermarket park on it over the telephone.