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Workshop => The Mad Scientist => Topic started by: Allison#51 on January 31, 2014, 11:18:38 PM
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Anyone else seen this new six 5 designs frame?! It looks bad to the bone.
(http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt116/Allison55/image-12.jpg) (http://s603.photobucket.com/user/Allison55/media/image-12.jpg.html)
It's a TRX 450r style chassis that uses LTR geometry and Jake said its designed to fit any motor and be perfectly balanced. I'm scared to see the price tag but I'm glad to see something new. Maybe someday...
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I thought the TRX geometry was superior to any other?
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Six5 has nailed it on everything so far, this will be no exception. Even though Walsh is at the for front of this already, it is still cool! To answer 1986s' question, the Ltr geometry is said to be the best, there are several companies making 450r arms using Ltr geo with Ltr spindles, hubs, rotor as well as Ltr geo stems. Walsh also makes hybrid frames (crf) to use this style setup. Also has rear end options of 450r link style or Savior (basically crf450 link). Lsr has their own style spindles(Ltr geo) that uses trx hubs and brakes with High Missalign tie rods for Trx design stems. Although its a cheaper solution, its said to not handle as well, but still better than 450r
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That frame is sick. I'd love to have one.
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great looking chassis. $4,000 with swinger?
john
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great looking chassis. $4,000 with swinger?
john
I'm thinking more like Walsh/Laeger pricing based on price of existing arms and swinger. It should be worth it. 6k with stem?
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I thought the TRX geometry was superior to any other?
It is....but the OEM LTR frame was based off a Walsh 250R frame I believe. The heart and soul of the 250R geometry is still there
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Excellent info and a true work of art!
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Here's some more pictures in case someone doesn't have Facebook (http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt116/Allison55/image-15.jpg) (http://s603.photobucket.com/user/Allison55/media/image-15.jpg.html)
(http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt116/Allison55/image-16.jpg) (http://s603.photobucket.com/user/Allison55/media/image-16.jpg.html)
(http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt116/Allison55/image-17.jpg) (http://s603.photobucket.com/user/Allison55/media/image-17.jpg.html)
(http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt116/Allison55/image-14.jpg) (http://s603.photobucket.com/user/Allison55/media/image-14.jpg.html)
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They are also building a cr 500 hybrid right now using a 450R chassis
(http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt116/Allison55/image-13.jpg) (http://s603.photobucket.com/user/Allison55/media/image-13.jpg.html)
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Now that cr500 in a 450r is what interests me!
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That stem setup on the CRF frame is awesome. Bet the only thing left of the trx frame will be the six5 motor mounts. Joking aside, it would be fantastic if someone could crack the code and figure out how to run a KTM250/300 motor in a quad frame. Similar to the ROLL DESIGN kx250 effort but available for the public.
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Now that cr500 in a 450r is what interests me!
Here's Jakes response to a question about how it will handle the vibes and another about if he would sell a kit to build one.
"The entire engine is mounted thru polyurethane bushings in attempt to limit the vibrations as much as possible. We will see. And David, we will sell kits if people are in the market for them." This one really interests me as well! I think this would be an awesome hybrid that I could actually afford to build and eventually I could run his a arms, swingarm, and stem since he's using the 450 frame. I think we're going to be forced to look into options like this as 250r parts start getting more scarce.
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It will be interesting to see how they find room for the pipe and radiator in there. I'm pumped that we got someone out there with fresh ideas and a willingness to work with the customer.
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Wow..... Nice to see developement going on
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No offense to the Honda folks but given a choice I'm thinking KX500.
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No offense to the Honda folks but given a choice I'm thinking KX500.
No offense takin' The KX500 is badASS! That would be a perfect combo.
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Looks pretty cool. Any idea what any of it weighs?
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whats better about a kx500 than a cr?
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Power Valve! :victorious:
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Anyone notice how similar to the CR500 Linkage setup his frame is...The shock is offset to the right,its nearly vertical and looking at the linkage itself looks to be copied from the Cr500. Just goes to show our old technology is still trying to be duplicated! :playful:
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That tank looks like origami.(http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/172_743_2017-04-18_4730.png) There's a lot of hours in that bike!!!!
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It looks like a narrow frame but it's hard to tell because of the tubing size he used. LTR is very similar to 250R geometry, Doug Gust helped them design the thing so one would assume it had the best characteristics of all machines available at the time in his opinion.
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Anyone notice how similar to the CR500 Linkage setup his frame is...The shock is offset to the right,its nearly vertical and looking at the linkage itself looks to be copied from the Cr500. Just goes to show our old technology is still trying to be duplicated! :playful:
The shock isn't offset on that frame like a CR setup but most of the bike linkage setups are similar it's the same concept from back then. BTW I have one of your bikes brothers it's P004 I talked to Johnny Gallagher Jr. about it for a while one time at a GNCC.
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The shock isn't offset on that frame like a CR setup but most of the bike linkage setups are similar it's the same concept from back then. BTW I have one of your bikes brothers it's P004 I talked to Johnny Gallagher Jr. about it for a while one time at a GNCC.
Darn thats sick can you post up some pictures?
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They are also building a cr 500 hybrid right now using a 450R chassis
(http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt116/Allison55/image-13.jpg) (http://s603.photobucket.com/user/Allison55/media/image-13.jpg.html)
I would be first in line if Six 5 Designs would make a kit to mount a CR500 motor in a OEM 450R frame. I happen to have two 450R's in my garage!
No offense takin' The KX500 is badASS! That would be a perfect combo.
Take that back, I would be first in line for the KX500 motor, CR500 motor would be my second choice!
Doug
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I would be first in line for the KX500 motor, CR500 motor would be my second choice!
Doug
I wonder if one is slightly better then the other on the vibration end for being installed in a quad frame? No counter ballancer on either we know so neither would be great but I just wonder if one would work slightly better then the other for this use. Probably not enough to matter...
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[QE=Allison#51;24555]They are also building a cr 500 hybrid right now using a 450R chassis
(http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt116/Allison55/image-13.jpg) (http://s603.photobucket.com/user/Allison55/media/image-13.jpg.html)[/QUOTE]
I would definitely be one of the first in line for one of these. Might need to get a list going and send it their way to jump start the sale of the kits.
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Jake is the man!
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I sent a email regarding the cr500 conversion but never got a response. Oh well, I guess I'll have to keep wrenching on this darn 4 stroke motor lol