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General => Lounge => Topic started by: Pricecheck on February 05, 2014, 04:20:40 PM
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First off, I didn't know exactly where to place this thread. The lounge seemed like the proper place. On to the topic.
I ride XC and like anyone else with an R, you know that we are limited on space for tools or spare parts. This being said, I do carry some tools with me in my truck or trailer. I just want to know what people are using for use while on the trail. I'm thinking of a fanny pack slung around to my back or strapped behind the bumper.
Here are some things that I'm thinking of carrying (wrenches kept to what is needed): Allen wrenches, crescent wrench, small vice grips, duct tape, zip ties, flat head, phillips, spark plug wrench, spark plug, rag, 20'-30' of climbing rope for towing, master link, few spare bolts, needed sockets and ratchet, space blanket for emergency cold weather break downs, spare jets for drastic temp/elevation changes, flash light, toilet paper
This is just off the top of my head but I'm sure there is more. All of these items will be space saving sizes. The small roll of gorilla tape can be smashed flat to work as well. For me I'm slowly getting rid of regular bolts and moving over to allen heads so wrenches needed are kept to a minimum.
I believe you all get the idea. Please post up your list of necessities and what you use to carry it and where it is placed and maybe some pics if you can.
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i carry 2 masterlinks! and have used them both great call everything i carry in a small camelback your way ahead of me, so thank you for some thing i should add to mine back
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two spark plugs
spark plug wrench
master link
clutch cable
20 oz bottle of oil/gas (enough to get up hills if im lost. will push on flats and downhills)
john
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I'll be watching this thread. I only ride dunes almost and always with at least 1 other person so if a major breakdown occurs it's pretty easy to get back to camp. That being said, I do carry a backpack containing the standard 250R tool kit (10,12,14,17mm wrenches, pliers, screwdriver, and plug wrench), spare plug, knife, first aid kit and water.
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Spark plug, plug wrench, zip ties, a couple of mini screw drivers for carb adjusting, and the most helpful ( and most used) thing I carry is a tire plug kit and a CO2 inflator kit. I also use a fanny pack slung to the back. Anything larger the 4wd guys carry. They have to make themselves useful for something.
Also: forgot a ziplock bag of TP :fighting0024:
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My use will be racing and just trail riding. Ziploc bags to carry certain stuff is definitely essential. Tire plug kit, lightweight and low on space. Interesting on the co2 inflator kit. I'll look into space on that.
The only reason I have screw drivers is the carb adjustments. I just changed my carb screws to allen head yesterday. All of my bolts are slowly becoming the SS allen head bolts. Now even though I have the esr jet wrench I think I might make a wrench. One side it'll have the size for the spark plug. The other side will have the size for the bowl screw. On that end it'll have a small flat head protruding.
One thing I haven't made yet but it will work is my cheap vice grip mod. I bought a $2 pair of vice grips from walmart and I'm going to weld a plate on the end with two circles on it. This will be used for crimping on the master link so I can slide the clip in. Dan clued me in on using a small socket but I'm taking it a step further and having it a one piece tool and it being able to squeeze both ends at once. I like the clutch cable idea. Being I just snapped one I will carry an extra. Also I might carry an extra shifter lever and clutch lever. That or I'll use the vice grips to limp back!
Good additions to the kit. Once I find an appropriate bag I will try and post something up. Right now I do have a great maxpedition monkey admin pouch that would do excellent but I wear it for my military kit. It has great storage in a small space. You just need to fab up a strap or waist belt if you want to wear it. Also check out toiletry bags. Maxpedition has a tactical toiletry bag. Looks cool.
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I got a alpinestar backpack that is actually for street bikes. It's waterproof and has a strap that goes around your waist and shoulder straps with and adjustable one that connects them up on chest. It's comfortable to wear and I carry gallon of gas, spark plug, master link, clutch perch and lever, brake lever, screwdrivers, ratchet and sockets, adjustable cresson wrench, some gas line hose, extra metric bolts, black tape and prob what ever else I think I may need lol. Seems like a lot but as soon as I can add the gas to my tank I do and then it's just weight of tools. When we stop at playgrounds or hillclimbs I just take it off. On one ride I actually fixed 3 different quads with all my parts.
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You should only need some pliers to seat the master link then slide clip over? Never used a vise.
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You should only need some pliers to seat the master link then slide clip over? Never used a vise.
I've always used just pliers but Dan showed me that it was easier to place a socket in between so the pressure is directly above the pin.
I've got a few backpacks to use. Actually have one that I'll sell if anyone wants it. It's a motherlode backpack/camelbak. Brand new. Back to the backpacks. I can see that being great on dune rides and such. Probably a good idea for me to throw one in the truck for a just in case situation. It would be nice to load out extra stuff to include water. Right now I'm actually watching a video on the maxpedition beefy. Pretty cool pouch. I don't know how many of those types of bags I've thrown away. I've got tons of headlamps and all. I think my titanium knife will make it in the pouch if there's room.
Edit: Maxpedition pouch model. Also, I just thought about this but everyone who wants to carry an extra clutch cable could just put electrical tape over the ends and zip tie it to the frame. It would just go with the frame and would never be in the way. Just a thought. Or maybe attach it to the underside of the seat coiled up.
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Fire starter for cold weather.... Tampon in the sealed plastic... Need to start a fire quick to keep warm... Hold the string, dip into gas tank, light you match/lighter....
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http://www.glock.com/english/glock20.htm Just in case I need to put a four stroke out of it's misery.
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I use the stock kit with a master link, spark plug, and the g20 sometimes.
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I was thinking earlier that my buddy gave me some old tools and said he thought they went to a 250r. I threw them all away. I was looking yesterday and saw the same exact tools. Someone restoring one could have used them I bet.
Glock 20. There's a method!
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I use a fanny pack or backpack for tools & water when riding in the dune's. Maybe instead of climbing rope get some mule tape. I carry a 20' piece of that in my pack & it takes up a lot less space than rope. For those that don't know what mule tape is, it's a flat woven rope that phone & power company's use for pulling wire. I have some in 1250# & 2500# test. I've doubled up the 2500# line & pulled a car with it once so it's very strong.
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Broken, that sounds cool. I did find the strap of one of the trx workout systems and it might work. I'll take a look at the mule tape.
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I don't carry tools when I ride. Seriously I don't.
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I've never needed them but if I'm deep in a xc race and my plastics come loose or if I snap something I just want to have an option. Kind of like a skid plate. It might not always be used but when it does it helps. Not a good analogy but I'm sure you understand!
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I see your problem. You don't have a good trusting relationship and open communication with your R. When I'm about to go riding, before I even load up I ask my R, you feel like going for a spin today baby? Is there anything I can do for you before the we head out? See you got to listen. If She says not today babe and your like, no! I'm telling you how it is and your giving it up. She gonna give you a hard time for sure.
Now if you need tools in the trail cause you crashed, then that's all you buddy!
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I'm with Josh. No tools need! Just cash for, food and beer! :encouragement: It's never a simple fix for me. If it happens, it's catastrophic. :crushed:
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The most I ever carry is a plug and plug wrench. That was back when I still had my toolbox years ago. Usually had that stuff and a pack of smokes(usually with an emergency doobie). We sure had a lot of emergencies back then. LOL I don't smoke that stuff anymore! It's a R, unless your jetting and/or maintenance sucks, you really don't/shouldn't need anything. Racing xc I could see maybe needing a little bit more, but I never did. That is what pre race quad maintenance is for and the whole point of using quality parts on your R.
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I normally don't carry tools when riding. But if I was going on a long trip to a national park or something i'd take:
zip ties, leatherman, small vise grips.
I like the Camelbak backpacks that are a backbak and liquid reservoir all in one
Also I found these:
http://eartheasy.com/lifestraw
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what kinda back packs do you guys use? and how do you guys carry extra gas with you?!! im looking to make a little trail bag as well just wounding what all to put in it and what to put them in?
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I carry a small backpack. It used to be a camelback, but I took the bladder out of it. I use it to carry two wrenches, two sockets, a screwdriver, and 8 beers.
I want to carry more, in case of an emergency, but 8 is all I can fit.
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how do you guys carry gas in your backpacks?!?!?!?!
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There's a company called PRIMUS that makes small aluminum fuel cans that look like water bottles. I was talking to a local guy that sells them & he said there real popular with the loggers. They put mix gas in one & bar oil in the other & carry them when their out in the woods. I was thinking about getting a 1.5L can for my bike.
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I just use 20 oz. water bottles that i dry out.
john
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if you use a water bottle does the gas slosh around a lot a build pressure!?
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I completely agree with the upkeep and not needing all of the tools out there. I've actually never busted a chain either.
Now if it came down to the absolutely essential needed gear for a race or more extreme trail riding I'd carry this:
Flat head for carb adjustments.
Spark plug if any chance of fouling one
Plug wrench to obviously get the plug off
Zip ties for the chance that something snags or something
Rag to clean up any mess of wipe your goggles
Having wrenches, ratchets, pliers and masterlink and stuff wouldn't be needed if you keep up on maintenance. I'm just trying to keep this down on size and weight. I don't plan on using it and would ultimately like to just forget it was there. It'll kind of be like a first aid kit. Most likely not needed but handy if you do.
This being said, I'll have larger tools and such in my tacklebox. Things like flywheel puller, lug wrench, cotter pins, bolts, washers, nuts, hammer, larger wrenches, woodruff keys, fuel lines, spare set of tires/rims, rags and fluids.
Then after this is all said and done I will be weighing my quad wet with all tools on it. I'll list what I have to a "T" so people have an idea instead of guessing or comparing. I know this has been debated on for years and I'll be starting a thread with facts. Just letting y'all know in advance.
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I have a sixpack rack that I swap on for long rides away from the truck. I foamed it in so a 2 gallon plastic gas can fits snugly.
3.6 in the tank and 2 more gives some decent distance. I never liked the thought of carrying gas on me. Definitely not a plastic water bottle, possibly consider the aluminum one though. Race gas makes it even more of a necessity.
Which reminds me I also carry a piece of hose to siphon fuel between bikes. It could save a buddy anyways.
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Even the most meticulously prepped machine can have a failure of some part. Be prepared. It's good to carry a small length of chain(a half a dozen links) along with two masters in case a section gets twisted beyond where it will stay on the sprockets. Your extra clutch cable can be zip tied to the one on the bike.(http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/172_529_2017-04-18_4855.jpg)
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Even the most meticulously prepped machine can have a failure of some part. Be prepared. It's good to carry a small length of chain(a half a dozen links) along with two masters in case a section gets twisted beyond where it will stay on the sprockets. Your extra clutch cable can be zip tied to the one on the bike.(http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/172_529_2017-04-18_8527.jpg)
My question is how do you take that chunk of chain out? I've had to use my cutoff wheel to do so and I don't carry that with me at all. I do carry extra links though. Extra exhaust springs ,bailing wire, exhaust orings and the awesome tlr exhaust seal stuff. I just don't know how you utilize the extra links.
By the way... Perfect location on the clutch cable!
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My question is how do you take that chunk of chain out?
a small chain breaker(http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/172_530_2017-04-18_4290.jpg)
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what about first aid kits? any of you guys carry these on your person while riding? and what do you guys put in them?
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For first aid, if I carried one id only have gauze in it. I can just tie it if manual pressure doesn't work (if it's bleeding). If it's serious you could use a stick for a tourniquet torsion device!
Army talk!!! Side note, in real life a 7 year old fell from a tree in Afghanistan and snapped his femur. I assisted in a traction splint. This is where we pulled his bottom part of the leg down and lined up the bone. Very odd feeling as the bones grinder against one another.
Back to the first aid. I'm one who, while in the garage, gets a cut and just wraps it in a paper towel piece and tapes it with electrical tape.
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good stuff here fellas!! I use to carry a back pack full of stuff (as mentioned in this thread) but as I'm getting older I feel too cramped to use one anymore. what I do for items I need to take is I make up a "emergency kit/tool holder" out of 4" pvc tubing, caps and plugs. I mount it behind the front bumper. I mount them with a split clamp bolted to the bumper that I machined (like a 2 piece brake line clamp but obviously bigger). I will post up a mounted picture when I can get to the bikes. this is one I am making right now.........
(http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/24_533_2017-04-18_1715.jpg)
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bring a cell phone and hope it works. I've ridden trails in both Ohio and West Virginia and needed to use the phone in an emergency. this is from a few years back on one of my riding trips to West Virginia...4th gear pinned into a tree resulted in a ambulance ride for my bud. one extinct raptor............insured but it was a total loss :
(http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/24_534_2017-04-18_8096.jpg)
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I normally don't carry tools when riding. But if I was going on a long trip to a national park or something i'd take:
zip ties, leatherman, small vise grips.
I like the Camelbak backpacks that are a backbak and liquid reservoir all in one
Also I found these:
http://eartheasy.com/lifestraw
I have a Motherlode for sell! I thought it was brand new but I only used it once. Just the other day I pulled my kevlar plates out of it.
Croat1, I always have a cell on me. Well, I guess not with the riding jersey and pants. Guess it's more of a reason to make one. That PVC idea is pretty cool. I've always liked organization though. I like the elastic straps to hold things in. I think it's time to pull out the toughbox full of misc military bags and accessories!
Edit: Come to think of it, I've gotta buy pvc to store my wifes photography backdrops.
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good stuff here fellas!! I use to carry a back pack full of stuff (as mentioned in this thread) but as I'm getting older I feel too cramped to use one anymore. what I do for items I need to take is I make up a "emergency kit/tool holder" out of 4" pvc tubing, caps and plugs. I mount it behind the front bumper. I mount them with a split clamp bolted to the bumper that I machined (like a 2 piece brake line clamp but obviously bigger). I will post up a mounted picture when I can get to the bikes. this is one I am making right now.........
(http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/24_533_2017-04-18_7604.jpg)
That's a great idea Joe.....i'm making one of those for sure
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I don't like carrying too much weight on my body, except my belly, so I use a patrol pack. They stopped making these a long time ago(plus they weren't very strong) so I took one to a guy and he made a pattern and copied it out of some heavy duty stuff. For long events I made a bumper that can hold a motorcycle fender bag for the front. A bent tie rod can ruin your day so I hose clamped one to the grab bar (http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/172_545_2017-04-18_9503.jpg)(http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/172_546_2017-04-18_5987.jpg)
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Well, I went to ****'s yesterday and picked up a sweet fanny pack A.K.A. "fag-bag" for $16. It's going to hold a reasonable amount of stuff in a small space. While at home depot today I stumbled across a clearance area and got some Husky brand allen wrenches (metric and SAE) for $2 a set!
I'll have to post pics of my bag setup and what it contains but here is what I did today among many other things...
Here's what I started with. A crap wrench, a 17mm socket and a 13/16 socket.
(http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/250_737_2017-04-18_3441.jpg)
Here's after I cut down the wrench and smoothed it out and cut down the sockets to be used on either end. Also provided space for the spark plug to slide through.
(http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/250_738_2017-04-18_283.jpg)
Here it is welded up.
(http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/250_739_2017-04-18_5510.jpg)
I have used it. I actually used it today while doing plug chops! Works flawlessly.
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im curious to see how much you can get in a little fanny pack and what all you put in there.
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Here's my fanny pack. Lacking co2 air inflator and correct sockets but you'll get the idea on size and what you can fit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFU3owR-yH8
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another option of what to use to carry items:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRX250R-HONDA-UTILITY-STORAGE-RACK-GRAB-BAR-1986-1987-FOURTRAX-STORAGE-RACK-/301177719500?pt=Motors_ATV_Parts_Accessories&hash=item461f974acc&vxp=mtr
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Joe, good one! You need the vitals! :victorious: