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Title: Billet trans/override question
Post by: Morse250r on July 10, 2013, 08:20:27 PM

Tore into the puma today and found the gears and trans to be in perfect shape.  I believe what happen ( what Packard suggested) is it was back loaded inbetween 1st and 2nd. I had a jockey on my bike last weekend and told her to take off in 2nd. Packard said sometimes on a 2nd gear launch it can get stuck inbetween and the only way to fix it is to split the cases
But the question I have is on the shift star, one is oem and the other had been welded and machined can so eone tell me what one to use?   I'm thinking the one star that I've been running is from a Packard 1/4 netural down override that I use to run.  Thanks


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Title: Billet trans/override question
Post by: seanoktm on July 10, 2013, 08:31:03 PM

I don't think you need a different shift star. I am running the one I had set up on my 1-5 n down stock trans with my billet. I had my stock trans in my puma get stuck in gear a few times and I never split the cases. I just rocked the bike back and forth and it got  unstuck both times.

Title: Billet trans/override question
Post by: Morse250r on July 10, 2013, 08:34:29 PM

This was locked up tight I tried everything it wouldn't budget and multiple people tried.  What do you think the diff is wih the two stars pictured?

Title: Billet trans/override question
Post by: seanoktm on July 10, 2013, 08:52:04 PM

I can't remember I would have to ask my buddy. But I think you have to mod the shift star also for n down along with the shift drum. So that maybe what's different between them is. When mine locked up it felt really tight also but popped out. It happened both times right at the light.

Title: Billet trans/override question
Post by: rsss396 on July 10, 2013, 09:24:08 PM

What pattern are you suppose to run? your drum pattern needs to match the star as you probably know.

IMO the welded and reshaped drum would need to be run if you still are N down but I have not messed with a N down before

if you notice the welded one on the left has a dip ground in the 1st gear star to keep the bike in neutral while down, while the old N star has been welded and reshaped as a normal star

Title: Billet trans/override question
Post by: Polonda on July 10, 2013, 09:38:37 PM

Man I bet you were relieved.

Title: Billet trans/override question
Post by: Morse250r on July 10, 2013, 09:54:43 PM

Yes I am haha

Title: Billet trans/override question
Post by: atv fan 28 on July 11, 2013, 12:36:17 PM

im glad nothing was wrong with the gears!! had me worried a little bit..

Title: Billet trans/override question
Post by: motofool250r on July 11, 2013, 02:10:20 PM

yea atleast your only out some time and gaskets

Title: Billet trans/override question
Post by: Eightmup on July 11, 2013, 02:30:45 PM

Glad u didnt have to replace those gears i wish i would have been that lucky we just changed my billet set to a 2-5 override since i messed up first gear

Title: Billet trans/override question
Post by: Piediddy on July 11, 2013, 05:46:53 PM

Hey Morse, that tranny is originally from K&T so if you have any questions you could call Kim. Packard don't do the neutral down.

Title: Billet trans/override question
Post by: Morse250r on July 11, 2013, 09:15:58 PM

Ok I'll call them Packard swore it was his trans!lol

Title: Billet trans/override question
Post by: Piediddy on July 12, 2013, 08:00:25 AM

He might have got it mixed up with Derbys engine. But I'm positive Packard don't do the neutral down, I remember him telling me he wasn't a fan of the neutral down.

Title: Billet trans/override question
Post by: derby on July 12, 2013, 08:53:59 AM

Mine was not a neutral down it was a 2-4.

Title: Billet trans/override question
Post by: Morse250r on July 12, 2013, 06:49:49 PM

Yea k&t made this mod for their 1/4 neutral down override I'm gonna put the stock one in now

Title: Billet trans/override question
Post by: traxman on July 12, 2013, 07:59:04 PM

Hey Morse do you still have your tranny out?? If you do could you snap a few close pictures of it assembled on the shafts so I can see how it goes together??  Nate shipped mine off to me without  pictures I need some for reference.. Thanks Damon..

Title: Billet trans/override question
Post by: Morse250r on July 13, 2013, 05:31:28 AM

np ill get some this weekend

Title: Billet trans/override question
Post by: traxman on July 13, 2013, 08:42:27 AM

Quote from: Morse250r;3373

np ill get some this weekend

Thanks you are my hero!!

Title: Billet trans/override question
Post by: Morse250r on July 14, 2013, 08:30:47 PM

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Title: Billet trans/override question
Post by: Morse250r on July 14, 2013, 08:31:21 PM

Let me know if you need more

Title: Billet trans/override question
Post by: genoapb on July 14, 2013, 11:44:30 PM

glad to see theres no damage, now slap that puppy back together and head over to silver.