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Title: Jetting baseline for 350 Sphynx
Post by: Tbone07 on May 20, 2014, 10:17:51 PM
350 Sphynx
38mm PWK
LED 350G exhaust
open airbox
800-900 ft elevation
V-Force 3

Current jetting is:

52 pilot
DEG needle on middle clip
178 main
air screw 2 turns out

Thanks
Title: Jetting baseline for 350 Sphynx
Post by: Redrider9982 on May 21, 2014, 07:17:18 PM
How do u like that pipe , i got the same one , ur soecs close so mine other then mines esr and rad valve with fiber reeds , let me know how u make out i cant get mine to idle unless giving it some throttle gonna try a 55 pilot for the heck of it and play with the air screw and idle screw
Title: Jetting baseline for 350 Sphynx
Post by: T8R6X on May 21, 2014, 09:40:23 PM
What did Arlen recommend? My prox350 with led intake and 350g pipe is running 52 pilot dej 4th from the top and a 180 main and I'm really close just being picky at this point
Title: Jetting baseline for 350 Sphynx
Post by: GO OVRIT on May 21, 2014, 10:21:16 PM
Your main seems small.  Especially with that pipe.  You can always work safely back down.
Title: Jetting baseline for 350 Sphynx
Post by: Redrider9982 on May 22, 2014, 01:12:16 AM
Arlan said 48-50 pilot , start 182 main , ddj needle middle clip , i tried a 58 , 55, 53 pilot have no idle on any of them and last time my a/s was out 3 turns off and wasnt idling up , i have tried a 50 and 48 nothing seems to work i had it kinda idling with a 55 but it was turned to far out idled for maybe 10 secs the died so put in 53 and still no idle ,,, at this point the carb is smArter then me
Title: Jetting baseline for 350 Sphynx
Post by: Tbone07 on May 22, 2014, 09:00:20 AM
Quote from: Redrider9982;34517
How do u like that pipe , i got the same one , ur soecs close so mine other then mines esr and rad valve with fiber reeds , let me know how u make out i cant get mine to idle unless giving it some throttle gonna try a 55 pilot for the heck of it and play with the air screw and idle screw

The pipe would be better if it didn't leak exhaust soot EVERYWHERE. From idle to 1/4 throttle i'm good, anything above 1/4 throttle is absolute crap and won't clean out. I probably won't even be able to do a useful plug chop with the way it won't clean out and rev. I'm not ruling out electrical problems either

I'm also waiting in BR8EG plugs, using a BR9EIX right now (which worked great in my PC2000)
Title: Jetting baseline for 350 Sphynx
Post by: T8R6X on May 22, 2014, 10:47:06 AM
I used the res silicone to seal mine and haven't had any issues
Title: Jetting baseline for 350 Sphynx
Post by: rk88r on May 22, 2014, 03:28:59 PM
Do you have a dej to try? A deg is quite rich at a 1/4 throttle.
Title: Jetting baseline for 350 Sphynx
Post by: Redrider9982 on May 22, 2014, 07:26:07 PM
I used lots of silicone in the first joiint kinda built a gasket in there then let it set up for 10 mins or so also put a little around the exhaust flange and on all the reat of the pipe joints and let it sit for 24 hrs it seems to have seal up nothings leaking but i cant get the thing to idle so its only been run about 2-3 mins total
Title: Jetting baseline for 350 Sphynx
Post by: Redrider9982 on May 23, 2014, 01:34:07 AM
Got mine idling currently its a 50 pilot around 2 turns out on air screw , tbone if u havent done it already try cutting 2-3 coils off ur idle screw to make it go in a bit further just a suggestion ....
Title: Jetting baseline for 350 Sphynx
Post by: Tbone07 on May 23, 2014, 09:29:34 AM
Quote from: Redrider9982;34626
Got mine idling currently its a 50 pilot around 2 turns out on air screw , tbone if u havent done it already try cutting 2-3 coils off ur idle screw to make it go in a bit further just a suggestion ....

Mine is idling perfectly. It's anything above 1/4 throttle just hits and misses.

Going to play with some needle settings today after work.
Title: Jetting baseline for 350 Sphynx
Post by: Redrider9982 on May 23, 2014, 09:35:11 AM
If u can get ur hands on some other needles wouldnt be bad either , hopefully ur electrical isnt cutting out on you
Title: Jetting baseline for 350 Sphynx
Post by: Tbone07 on May 23, 2014, 09:21:49 PM
Put in a brand new B8EG plug and she runs like a raped ape, I probably fouled the BR9EIX. She runs much better now.

Traveling to my property down south this weekend. I can open her up on the country gravel roads so i'll get some plug chops in to fine tune it even better.

I almost clipped a tree in my backyard when my front end came up unexpectedly lol
Title: Jetting baseline for 350 Sphynx
Post by: F-Red on May 23, 2014, 10:30:47 PM
Sweet results! So simple, it makes you giddy! :loyal: Be careful out there!
Title: Jetting baseline for 350 Sphynx
Post by: bnau267 on May 24, 2014, 06:58:05 PM
Quote from: Tbone07;34687
Put in a brand new B8EG plug and she runs like a raped ape, I probably fouled the BR9EIX. She runs much better now.

Traveling to my property down south this weekend. I can open her up on the country gravel roads so i'll get some plug chops in to fine tune it even better.

I almost clipped a tree in my backyard when my front end came up unexpectedly lol


Good news.  I was watching this closely.  My engine is out for powder and hope to have the LED running by July 4.
Title: Jetting baseline for 350 Sphynx
Post by: croat1 on May 25, 2014, 05:48:47 PM
Quote from: Tbone07;34687
Put in a brand new B8EG plug and she runs like a raped ape, I probably fouled the BR9EIX. She runs much better now.

Traveling to my property down south this weekend. I can open her up on the country gravel roads so i'll get some plug chops in to fine tune it even better.

I almost clipped a tree in my backyard when my front end came up unexpectedly lol

update please
Title: Jetting baseline for 350 Sphynx
Post by: Tbone07 on May 26, 2014, 10:33:40 PM
Quote from: croat1;34851
update please

Here's your update Joe.....

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t457/tbone0785/20140526_143344_zps44dad027.jpg)
Title: Jetting baseline for 350 Sphynx
Post by: Pumashine on May 26, 2014, 11:37:20 PM
Wow, that's a lot of power unleashed at the wrong time time I am guesting. I am feeling your pain. I blew 2nd gear trying to launch in 2nd on the hill shoot.
Title: Jetting baseline for 350 Sphynx
Post by: Redrider9982 on May 27, 2014, 03:39:54 AM
Is that a 2nd gear launch failure or bearing failure ... That pic made my stomach turn ...
Title: Jetting baseline for 350 Sphynx
Post by: Tbone07 on May 27, 2014, 09:15:51 AM
Quote from: Pumashine;34989
Wow, that's a lot of power unleashed at the wrong time time I am guesting. I am feeling your pain. I blew 2nd gear trying to launch in 2nd on the hill shoot.

So what was your solution to this? I'm beginning to think that these things just weren't made to handle this type of power reliably.

Or maybe the LED gears would solve my problems, I probably should have put those gears in beforehand.

This really has me thinking about getting a modern 4-stroke, specifically a Laeger hybrid. Maybe I just need to cool down for a bit
Title: Jetting baseline for 350 Sphynx
Post by: Burns363R on May 27, 2014, 09:21:20 AM
I ran a full MX season on my stock trans without that issue.  I dont think its to much power for it.  But Arlan's gears would be a good upgrade.
Title: Jetting baseline for 350 Sphynx
Post by: F-Red on May 27, 2014, 09:50:01 AM
That does suck! The damage is done. Time to regroup and plan your next move. Stock gears were never designed, for the power we are putting in the motors. Maybe that gear, had some pre-existing issues.
Title: Jetting baseline for 350 Sphynx
Post by: Pumashine on May 28, 2014, 12:49:42 AM
Quote from: F-Red;35036
That does suck! The damage is done.
You spend months doing a rebuild paying attention to every fine detail. Hours of planning and time spent to make sure every little thing is done right. Then BAM its all over in a few minutes. I know how you feel. But remember its happened to most of us at least once. I have fried many pistons, blown at least one tranny with hole in case, tore the sprocket hub off breaking the cases with the chain, and the last tins coming off and ruining the bottom end. But hell, you gotta love doing it!!! Just keeps you sane.