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Workshop => Body and Controls => Topic started by: Quinnlt4 on May 25, 2014, 10:24:43 AM
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Over the winter I added these clamp and I must say wow. Takes away a lot of vibration. On the track when you hit a deep rut it absorbs a lot of the yank. Also saves your wrist from hard flat landing(which I did a lot of last weekend). Needless to say I sold my fasstflexs on my crf and going to be putting these on it.
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I have them on my ATC and have been very pleased with them.
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I've got these and the ccp stabilizer. I've hit some off camber roots and ruts and a good speed and I swear I should have broken parts and gone over the bars but they took the beating and I easily stayed on. The best is you don't really know it's working but I remember my stock setup and there's no way I'll go back.
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I was running Flexx bars before, has anyone had experience with both to compare them?
Opps...I didnt read the entire post to see he sold the Flexx bars.
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Over the winter I added these clamp and I must say wow. Takes away a lot of vibration. On the track when you hit a deep rut it absorbs a lot of the yank. Also saves your wrist from hard flat landing(which I did a lot of last weekend). Needless to say I sold my fasstflexs on my crf and going to be putting these on it.
So you like these better than the fast flex bars,huh? What differences/improvements did you seen in them versus the flexbars?
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The one reason I liked the Faast bars is when leaning to the left or right it provides relief to your wrists in the really tight stuff.
I did look at the Precision clamps but went the flex bars route, on a dirtbike no doubt i'd go with the Precision clamps.
So you like the Precision clamps over the Faast bars on a quad?
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I did not run the flexx on my R, only on my crf. flexxs have movement up and down only while the shock n vibes have a full 360 motion, up down forward back etc. When cornering you still get that relief. When hitting whoops you really notice the forward/back motion and when you flat land, which I do a lot, it saves your wrist. While the flexxs are super nice and do improve a lot over just an anti vibe I personally feel that the shock n vibes are the the next step over the flexx. I am no racer, just a dune/trail guy with the occasional trip to a mx park. I originally went the shock n vibe route because it was cheaper than getting a second set of flex bars but after riding on these just on my local trails i rode home and took my flex bars off my crf, sold them , and now have two sets of shock n vibes. Just my opinion from a rider but I will not buy flex bars even if they were cheaper. If you watch their videos on their site they say you don't notice your shock n vibe clamps till you ride another quad/bike that doesn't have them. That is 100% true.
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From what you are describing they sound like they are a lot like the Rox Anti-vibe risers. They also had 360 degrees of motion (really hated that on steep decents). I ran those and Flexx bars together and thought the combination was awesome. I've been thinking about the Precision clamps for awhile now and may give them a shot once I get my R back together.
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Gol I can't imagine having moving handle bars.... Just doesn't seem safe to me...
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It's takes a bit to get use to it but once setup correctly it greatly reduces the beating your upper body takes in rough terrain.
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Maybe one day myself or someone can get a good slow-mo video of them in action on rough terrain.
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I did not run the flexx on my R, only on my crf. flexxs have movement up and down only while the shock n vibes have a full 360 motion, up down forward back etc. When cornering you still get that relief. When hitting whoops you really notice the forward/back motion and when you flat land, which I do a lot, it saves your wrist. While the flexxs are super nice and do improve a lot over just an anti vibe I personally feel that the shock n vibes are the the next step over the flexx. I am no racer, just a dune/trail guy with the occasional trip to a mx park. I originally went the shock n vibe route because it was cheaper than getting a second set of flex bars but after riding on these just on my local trails i rode home and took my flex bars off my crf, sold them , and now have two sets of shock n vibes. Just my opinion from a rider but I will not buy flex bars even if they were cheaper. If you watch their videos on their site they say you don't notice your shock n vibe clamps till you ride another quad/bike that doesn't have them. That is 100% true.
Thanks for the honest comparision and feedback. I was curious myself as to which one might be better.
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Gol I can't imagine having moving handle bars.... Just doesn't seem safe to me...
When you are riding you don't feel the bars moving, no little jitters, yanks or holes are felt it the bars. You feel the quad bouncing around in the pegs. Say you hit a big pothole and it jerks you to the left, the bars absorb most of that say you can still be in control. There is a video on presicions website, there is a gopro mounted to the bars, it looks like the bars aren't moving.
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This may be a needed option in my wife's bike, we will see!
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[video=youtube;AZ3nMlDDrbg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ3nMlDDrbg[/video]
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Hmmm any expectancy on the life of these things?
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I'm doing these as well as the CCP stabilizer for my play bike. Hopefully this won't tire out my arms as much.
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Maybe one day myself or someone can get a good slow-mo video of them in action on rough
Heres some video!
oh sorry video was already posted.....
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Awesome. That shows it well especially on the whoops.
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This makes me wish I hadn't just purchased a LSR bar mount.
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I wanted to try the Shock & Vibes out too. There are a lot of guys down here racing XC that run the Fasst Flexx but no one runs the Precisions that I could ask about comparing to. I'm sure at some point this year I'll end up with a set. I'm running a stick stabalizer with anti-vibe stem and shot filled bars at the moment and it works really well. But at 37, anything I can find to help make it through the 90 minute XC races faster would be awesome.
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So how about running Faast Flexx bars with these mounts in an anti-vibe stem?????
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I just checked out their website & noticed the only stock stem listing was for an 88. Does anyone know if these can be used on the 86-87 stem & still be able to use the stock headlight?
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So how about running Faast Flexx bars with these mounts in an anti-vibe stem?????
Now that sounds like the ticket...for someone with a lot more money than me. lol
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So how about running Faast Flexx bars with these mounts in an anti-vibe stem?????
You have to slide these clamps on the bars without grips/etc. They won't fit on flexx bars
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Been running a set of the Precision clamps on both my race quads now for years, plus I own a set of Flexx bars. The Flexx bars were ran then for a while on my backup 450R, now they are on my 250R. Kind of hard to explain the differences, guess the easy way out is the more aggressive I ride, the more I prefer the Precision clamps. Just out for a trail ride, I prefer the Flexx bars. I only really notice the benefit of the Precision clamps while standing, but I feel the Flexx bars while standing and sitting.
Doug
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So could these be used with a LS anti-vibe stem? Or only with stock stems?
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When you order them you can get them for either an antivibe or stock stem. If you get the antivibe you will need to get the rubber bushings and washer from LSR($30). For some reason precision will sell them with longer posts but they don't have the bushings. I run the clamps on my Laeger antivibe.
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So Doug, in your opinion, do you think the Precision would work better for XC racing? More aggressive, choppier ride and all.
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I don't have stock stem or anti vibe. I have a +2 eyeball engineering stem and like stated above, you just have to specify what stem you have. Bar as well (7/8" or 1 1/8").
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So Doug, in your opinion, do you think the Precision would work better for XC racing? More aggressive, choppier ride and all.
For me, yeah. That being said, they are both very close. They are both slightly different, but not a huge difference. Sorry, I know its kind of vague, it is just hard for me to compare the two, just hard to explain how they are different. Really, the best way to know what is best for you is to ride both and have your own opinion. (I know, not a cheap option.) Put it this way, if I had a set of Flexx bars already, I wouldn't sell them to buy the Precision clamps, thats how close they are.
Doug
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A little update on these. I actually noticed these working one day I slapped my front end down hard. I seriously thought my bar clamps were loose but it was the clamps dampening the blow! Being able to feel what normally would have been hard on the wrists was a true testament of why I will continue to run them. I'm just running the shims that came in them from purchase.
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Much thanks for the update. I'm still looking for a pair. I'm trying to get rid of the buzz in the bars. Anything to help tame my carpal tunnel.
I hit them up for sponsorship for 2015 so we'll see what happens. I really hope to be sporting a set of Shock & Vibes for next year!
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Yes, thanks for the update. I'm still mulling over getting a pair of them. They seem to be worth the money.
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[MENTION=140]Quinnlt4[/MENTION] how are these working for you still? Anyone else have any recent experiences or comparisons with these yet? Also how tall is the mount itself measured from the base of them to the center of the handlebar?
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what about using the precision clamps in conjunction with the fasst flexx bars?
john
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I got a set for Christmas last year. I have been extremely happy with them so far. I been in several mx races and practices since then, and my wrists have not suffered in bad jarring since I installed them, even when bottoming out heavily. I can't say as I notice much difference in a reduction of vibration. I can't speak with experience about that because I upsized the motor before I installed them. So I have no idea how they would have felt installed/not installed on the same motor. Overall, I am pleased.
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what about using the precision clamps in conjunction with the fasst flexx bars?
john
I know the precision clamps don't come apart like normal clamps and require you to slide the bars thru them, since the flexx bars aren't a single bar the only way you could use them both is to cut the flexx bars, put them on, then weld them back together.
[MENTION=100]rablack21[/MENTION] Thats good to hear! I've been on the fence about these clamps or flexx bars, I do like the idea of being able to use any bar with the clamps as opposed to having to use the flexx bars. I'll be purchasing the precision clamps soon
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They are still holding up great. I trail and dune ride. I don't like riding without them now that I am used to the movement. Takes so much shock out of your arms/wrists.