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Classifieds => Wanted => Topic started by: Burns363R on June 03, 2014, 07:16:21 AM
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I need an aftermarket axle. I need it to do stock width as well as wider. My current XC axle is a +2 +4 and even on its narrowest setting is to wide. May be willing to trade my LSR +2 +4 for a standard width aftermarket if the right option comes along.
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Lord, these kids today, I dont know what I'm going to do with them.
Now heres a part where age & being around ATV racing a bunch of years plays a roll.
You ever thought about turning the hubs around to narrow the rear end :popcorn:.
Simple deal, but it works & you aint got to replace the axle to do it.
Neil
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I tried that already Neil. But thanks. The hubs have a relief cut into the internal splines on the back side, so basically they only go on one way. The outside of the hub, the splines go to the edge.
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Ya i tried to do that, because it would have worked perfectly. But no dice unless i want to mill the splines out of the outside section of the hub about 1/4" or so.
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Aren't the lsr's +1-+3. The ones I have are anyway. Maybe another set of wheels with less backset/offset.
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LOl, i have shamrocks on it. IM not getting rid of those.
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LOl, i have shamrocks on it. IM not getting rid of those.
Oh Cmon kyle!!! I know a great home for those shamrocks!!!!
Goodluck finding an axle!
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I tried that already Neil. But thanks. The hubs have a relief cut into the internal splines on the back side, so basically they only go on one way. The outside of the hub, the splines go to the edge.
Yep your right, because on a Lonestar theres about a 3/16" wide section of the axle at the inside has no splines.
I've done it several times on my daughters, when hers had the Lonestar axle with out a problem, tucking those wheels in on a dusty loose 4 poker TT track to tighten the rear end up. Worked pretty good.
Neil
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Ya i tried to do that, because it would have worked perfectly. But no dice unless i want to mill the splines out of the outside section of the hub about 1/4" or so.
find a lathe and chuck em up and cut it away, would take 5 minutes and you will be good to go!
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bump still need one.
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Burns,
A G Force or Tusk 400EX axle, is 1" shorter than a + 4 Lonestar, so if you had one of those & then put the spacers on the outside of the hubs it probably would be narrow enough.
I got one of those in my daughters R & even with the 400EX hubs its narrower than a normal Lonestar 250r +4 set up.
Back when I bought that axle, was like 180 bucks to my door & that wasnt a dealer cost price, but retail.
Neil
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Im currently running a +2, +4 LSR setup. I have it has narrow as it will go, which is +2. When i put my shamrocks on it with my bazooka tires, outside of tire to outside is 48. So needless to say, i need to be able to do stock width. Im not sure if any +4 axle go clear back to stock width. Maybe they do, and just the one i have does not.
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Im currently running a +2, +4 LSR setup. I have it has narrow as it will go, which is +2. When i put my shamrocks on it with my bazooka tires, outside of tire to outside is 48. So needless to say, i need to be able to do stock width. Im not sure if any +4 axle go clear back to stock width. Maybe they do, and just the one i have does not.
Buy a stock Axle. I'll measure mine with the Shamroks and Hipers but I believe both are right around 45". I think my wheels are 3/5 or maybe 4/5 can't remember.
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My wheels are indeed 3/5 and fronts are 4/1. Front and rear on both quads measures 45". Fronts are +2 while back is stock axle.
(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af169/Bnau267/Arens%20PV265%20Build/imagejpg3_zpsa6bd08cc.jpg) (http://s1004.photobucket.com/user/Bnau267/media/Arens%20PV265%20Build/imagejpg3_zpsa6bd08cc.jpg.html)
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That is defiantly an option. I would rather have a harder aftermarket axle. I also like the option of adjust ability and durability. Hence the search. I will go stock as a last resort. There is a few of us trying to do a group buy on another site for an RPM XC axle.
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That is defiantly an option. I would rather have a harder aftermarket axle. I also like the option of adjust ability and durability. Hence the search. I will go stock as a last resort. There is a few of us trying to do a group buy on another site for an RPM XC axle.
What would the price be? I'd be interested in becoming part of the group buy. BTW - it takes a couple minutes to swap an axle out and the OEMs are out there pretty cheap. Just saying.
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Ya, but you cant change one out during a race if you bend/snap it. I race at a very good clip, and bending/braking axles are not my thing. You can run stock if you want to, but its not for me. check .net for the group buy.
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just get a stock axle hardened?? wouldnt cost much.
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Assuming you can find a place to properly harden it. There is a balance between hardness and toughness so that the axle can flex without yielding, but being hard enough to not crack.
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RPM still makes the XC axle for the 400EX which you would need EX hubs for as they have a different spline count. I run an older 250R RPM XC axle and it is very heavy duty. The width is setup about ~46" with 4B+5 wheels which is pretty good for woods/hare scrambles.
http://www.team-rpm.com/honda-trx-400ex-xc-dominator-ii-axle-race-hub.html
http://www.team-rpm.com/honda-trx-400ex-xc-dominator-ii-axle-standard-hub.html
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RPM has said they will make the 250R one again if we can get 5 people committed.
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Can you get a better price than the discount on the web if you get the 5 axle order? Count me in for (1) at the web discount price of $416 or I'd even consider (2) if you can work out a discount to get it below $400. Hate to spend the money but I don't want this one to slip away like some of the other premium 250R parts. Plus I want to run RPM hubs and they don't make them for the 400ex axle.
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Well you should be able to run 250R hubs on the 250R RPM axle as well.
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Well you should be able to run 250R hubs on the 250R RPM axle as well.
So you have (qty2) - me and you. Anyone else?
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I believe there are a few others. TLR is handling it.
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I believe there are a few others. TLR is handling it.
Does he def have them committed to the 5 idea? I've tried before with no luck.
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I guess i mis understood what TLR posted. His buy 5 deal was from a few years ago. I thought it was current. Im going to call RPM on monday and see what they can do.
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I guess i mis understood what TLR posted. His buy 5 deal was from a few years ago. I thought it was current. Im going to call RPM on monday and see what they can do.
Count me in for one if you talk them into it.
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RPM still makes the XC axle for the 400EX which you would need EX hubs for as they have a different spline count. I run an older 250R RPM XC axle and it is very heavy duty. The width is setup about ~46" with 4B+5 wheels which is pretty good for woods/hare scrambles.
Why I sold my 400ex without trying this is beyond me. Besides the hubs, do you need anything else to run the 400ex axle? Sprocket and brake splines line right up? Bearing carrier is the same I guess which then begs me to ask about the brakes. You could run either the 400 complete setup or the R? Is this correct...
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Yes you can run a 250R setup. I ran a 400ex axle for years on my spare bike. All that is needed is the wheel hubs.
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this looks like a promising axle. good price to.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-trx400ex-TRX-400-EX-400ex-Tusk-Race-Adjustable-Axle-MX-XC-TT-/380842623316?pt=Motors_ATV_Parts_Accessories&hash=item58abfd4154&vxp=mtr
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nevermind, i thought it was -2 5/8 to 4 5/8. I think its +2 5/8 is what it means.