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Workshop => Suspension and Chassis => Topic started by: bnau267 on June 08, 2014, 05:19:45 PM

Title: New PEP rear vs OEM PEP conversion - suggestions, pros, cons.
Post by: bnau267 on June 08, 2014, 05:19:45 PM
The price to convert and setup my OEM as a PEP is around $450.  My guess is another $350 to $400 gets me a brand new PEP rear.  Who's been down this road?  I have Axis for the most part, and they seem like a better priced suspension, but I'd like to run PEPs on the bike I'm currently building.  I'd have Baldwin do the PEP setup being that they're next door and Mark has a ton of R background.

Thanks, Bob
Title: New PEP rear vs OEM PEP conversion - suggestions, pros, cons.
Post by: zcarlson12 on June 08, 2014, 05:28:23 PM
I've been sending Baldwin my suspension for years and never have had a complaint. I run ZPS fronts and an Axis no-link rear on my Laeger which he just revalved and serviced, they are perfect.
Title: New PEP rear vs OEM PEP conversion - suggestions, pros, cons.
Post by: andy@maultechatv on June 08, 2014, 05:48:09 PM
I'd keep the Axis.  They are better.  There's nothing wrong with the stock internals either if they are changing them.  You may just be buying new springs and a revalve.
Title: New PEP rear vs OEM PEP conversion - suggestions, pros, cons.
Post by: bnau267 on June 08, 2014, 06:36:14 PM
Quote from: andy@maultechatv;36044
I'd keep the Axis.  They are better.  There's nothing wrong with the stock internals either if they are changing them.  You may just be buying new springs and a revalve.

Thanks Andy.  Not doubt I'm a fish out of water when it comes to suspension.  The problem with my Axis set is that I need to have mine converted from LT to standard to work with the Roll XC arms.  Plus I was wanting to go piggy back and PEP has a cool little kit to connect the bottle.
Title: New PEP rear vs OEM PEP conversion - suggestions, pros, cons.
Post by: andy@maultechatv on June 08, 2014, 06:42:22 PM
We have the same mounts for Axis too!  I'm not a paying site sponsor and am not trying to do business on here.  Just wanted to help out and tell you it would be better to stick with the Axis.  To go to long travel on the Axis you will need new bodies which isn't that big of a deal for a shop to do.
Title: New PEP rear vs OEM PEP conversion - suggestions, pros, cons.
Post by: bnau267 on June 08, 2014, 07:10:58 PM
Quote from: andy@maultechatv;36046
We have the same mounts for Axis too!  I'm not a paying site sponsor and am not trying to do business on here.  Just wanted to help out and tell you it would be better to stick with the Axis.  To go to long travel on the Axis you will need new bodies which isn't that big of a deal for a shop to do.

Thanks for your insight.  I appreciate it very much.
Title: New PEP rear vs OEM PEP conversion - suggestions, pros, cons.
Post by: Leftynanners on June 10, 2014, 02:49:05 AM
Just out of curiosity, what advantages could somebody expect purchasing an aftermarket shock as opposed to doing a conversion on their stock shock?
Title: New PEP rear vs OEM PEP conversion - suggestions, pros, cons.
Post by: andy@maultechatv on June 10, 2014, 07:51:24 AM
Quote from: Leftynanners;36198
Just out of curiosity, what advantages could somebody expect purchasing an aftermarket shock as opposed to doing a conversion on their stock shock?

That's a really good question.  Actually some stock fronts have really good pistons in them.  But the downfalls to them are that the adjusters don't have much range and some don't do anything at all.  The other big factor with stock shock conversions is that they are limited to what extended and compressed lengths they can be changed to.
Title: New PEP rear vs OEM PEP conversion - suggestions, pros, cons.
Post by: big_R_bore on July 15, 2014, 11:57:04 AM
I just had my 86 rear shock converted with pep internals from Baldwin motorsports, I can give feedback soon when I finish the build here in the next month, but I have never riden on a true pep rear shock so I cant compare the two.
Title: New PEP rear vs OEM PEP conversion - suggestions, pros, cons.
Post by: rablack21 on July 15, 2014, 01:27:47 PM
This might be another option as well. Maul Tech is now the exclusive dealer for GT Suspension components. If I didn't have an almost new set of Axis shocks, I would be buying a set of these from Andy.
Title: New PEP rear vs OEM PEP conversion - suggestions, pros, cons.
Post by: Tbone07 on July 15, 2014, 02:23:07 PM
Quote from: zcarlson12;36042
I've been sending Baldwin my suspension for years and never have had a complaint. I run ZPS fronts and an Axis no-link rear on my Laeger which he just revalved and serviced, they are perfect.

Why do you prefer the Axis over the PEP, Andy?
Title: New PEP rear vs OEM PEP conversion - suggestions, pros, cons.
Post by: Burns363R on July 15, 2014, 02:34:52 PM
Check ball system.
Title: New PEP rear vs OEM PEP conversion - suggestions, pros, cons.
Post by: rablack21 on July 15, 2014, 02:42:59 PM
Quote from: Burns363R;39091
Check ball system.
This ^^^^
Title: New PEP rear vs OEM PEP conversion - suggestions, pros, cons.
Post by: andy@maultechatv on July 15, 2014, 07:57:41 PM
There is a reason PEP didn't run a check ball piston in the rear shock.  Because it won't work!