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Title: My new motor
Post by: Mickkey82984 on June 16, 2014, 11:13:13 AM
I few pics of my new motor. Just got to stuff it in my stock frame and get a wheelie bar made, I don't think +8 is going to be enough.
(http://i1324.photobucket.com/albums/u617/mike_padilla1/saber1_zps6e4b3dd5.jpg) (http://s1324.photobucket.com/user/mike_padilla1/media/saber1_zps6e4b3dd5.jpg.html)
(http://i1324.photobucket.com/albums/u617/mike_padilla1/photo_zps0b17c486.jpg) (http://s1324.photobucket.com/user/mike_padilla1/media/photo_zps0b17c486.jpg.html)
Title: My new motor
Post by: zcarlson12 on June 16, 2014, 11:25:12 AM
Looks sick! Hope you like hanging on for dear life.
Title: My new motor
Post by: havinnoj on June 16, 2014, 11:33:48 AM
Oh yeah!  Specs?
:nitro:
Title: My new motor
Post by: rk88r on June 16, 2014, 11:47:08 AM
Make sure you take pics of the front end for your riding buddies, cause they're only seeing the back.
Title: My new motor
Post by: Bigred on June 16, 2014, 12:04:02 PM
Or the bottom as he's wheeling by lol
Title: My new motor
Post by: Mickkey82984 on June 16, 2014, 01:22:02 PM
Quote from: havinnoj;36843
Oh yeah! Specs?
:nitro:

Its a 97mm saber top end drag ported by Hybrid, 77mm balanced cr 500 crank, cr 250 ignition, 1-4 override back cut by pete, direct drive lock up, SCP off drag pipe, running on Alky. Just have to get a pingel, fuel pump and a moster carb to feed this beast.
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Post by: Pumashine on June 16, 2014, 01:45:13 PM
Quote from: Mickkey82984;36858
Its a 97mm saber top end drag ported by Hybrid, 77mm balanced cr 500 crank, cr 250 ignition, 1-4 override back cut by pete, direct drive lock up, SCP off drag pipe, running on Alky. Just have to get a pingel, fuel pump and a moster carb to feed this beast.
Looks familiar. Is that a UPP intake manifold?
Title: My new motor
Post by: Mickkey82984 on June 16, 2014, 01:54:08 PM
I'm pretty sure it is but I will have to ask bill to be sure.
Title: My new motor
Post by: Pumashine on June 16, 2014, 02:06:46 PM
Quote from: Mickkey82984;36860
I'm pretty sure it is but I will have to ask bill to be sure.
Traxman was saying all his UPP intake manifolds used with alcohol fell apart in the last couple years. He showed me 2 of them a couple weeks ago. The polyurethane has separated from the aluminum inside.  Just a heads up if it turns to silly putty! The gas motors don't have this problem
Title: My new motor
Post by: Mickkey82984 on June 16, 2014, 04:14:26 PM
Quote from: Pumashine;36863
Traxman was saying all his UPP intake manifolds used with alcohol fell apart in the last couple years. He showed me 2 of them a couple weeks ago. The polyurethane has separated from the aluminum inside. Just a heads up if it turns to silly putty! The gas motors don't have this problem

Thanks for the info, this will be the one of first thing I check when It arrives.
Title: My new motor
Post by: Morse250r on June 16, 2014, 05:13:10 PM
I've never had an issue with upp and alky
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Post by: rsss396 on June 16, 2014, 11:02:37 PM
Nice build Mickkey!

on the UPP boots I had a issue with a couple saber/liger boots falling apart but I really do not think alcohol was the problem
the very first boot I had was the typical style UPP boot being very thick and stiff. When I was widened the inside of it I ground the rubber back far enough on one side to expose the aluminum plate. Everything was fine until the end of the season when the rubber started to delaminate from the alum plate causing a small intake leak.
so I ordered 2 new intakes just to have a spare, both these new intakes were very different than the first boot any other UPP boot.
these new boots were much softer and thinner than the first, I actually like the look and feel of them because of the better vibration isolation for the carb.
well after only 1 day at the Dyno which was about 50 pulls I found that the boot had torn this time but was bonded to the alum plate.
i was racing the next weekend so I threw the spare on and crossed my fingers that it would hold up will it did for about a day and part of another before it also was torn.
so after that I talked with cp and they credited me for them and I actually switched to the oval style they stocked for the oval CPC carbs since I was running a 52 and 56 carb it fit tight enough and has been very durable.
If CP sends you the thinner softer rubber style send them back or they will fail very quickly.
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Post by: atv fan 28 on June 16, 2014, 11:12:13 PM
I got a spare UPP manifold when I bought my Saber and it fell apart before I ever used it. But it had been used by the previous owner. I use the oval shaped manifold now and it seems to be holding up well even thought it only has 3 trips out on it
Title: My new motor
Post by: rsss396 on June 16, 2014, 11:15:28 PM
Was the boot that fell apart a typical thick UPP style like your oval boot?
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Post by: atv fan 28 on June 16, 2014, 11:26:38 PM
it was more of a rubber type material. The one I'm using now is more shiney and slick if that makes sense....
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Post by: atv fan 28 on June 16, 2014, 11:30:03 PM
The one that fell apart was a oval type with the aluminum flange by the way
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Post by: traxman on June 17, 2014, 03:16:51 AM
I've had 2 rounds and 1 oval. I believe they where all early. On the two rounds the, the rubber is in good shape, but they where ported to match the intake and they failed where they where bonded to the aluminum on the bottom of the intake tract. The oval was previously own by the same person who sold Wayne his motor and I ran it one weekend and it was completely rotten a few weeks later similar to what Wayne's saying. I was wondering if it could be the castor oil, because the first two years I purged with synthetic oil because it was easy to use what I ran in my other bikes. But I haven't got to ride on gas bike that much so I started using castor on the purges and that's when I first had failures. I thought maybe the castor could have something in it that is slowly breaking down the polyurethane.
Title: My new motor
Post by: rsss396 on June 17, 2014, 06:38:56 AM
wayne I know exactly what you mean, the shiney should be durable in my experience

here is a pic of the softer rubber that tore on me

(http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab265/rsss396/100_1315.jpg)


(http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab265/rsss396/b96404c9-ab56-40bf-ac96-e9759a044065_zps3200fd5d.jpg)


this round one was the first one I used and was durable, the oval I run now also looks just like this and has been flawless

(http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab265/rsss396/100_1207.jpg)
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Post by: JesseA420 on June 17, 2014, 07:53:19 AM
holy hell.... so much want....