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Title: Spare Tranny parts....
Post by: Pumashine on July 24, 2014, 03:35:20 PM
Just keeping track of what members need. I will dig out the spare tranny's and see whats available. Here are the notes for today. Lets me get all the spare parts together and see whats available. Thanks guys

silverlake250r needs 90454-KF0-000 .. is the one on the end of the countershaft... and 90431-HA2-000 the very thin one by 4th gear on the countershaft


Bio86 needs    #7 in the trans? Little bushing that 2nd gear rides on.
Title: Spare Tranny parts....
Post by: gibson265r on July 24, 2014, 04:45:17 PM
Ive got an '85 trans for sale. Complete and shipped for 125
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Post by: Bio86 on July 24, 2014, 06:21:28 PM
Yah if you look at the manual it says #7, I just know that's what 2nd gear on the sprocket shaft runs on.  Its a fairly soft bushing.
Title: Spare Tranny parts....
Post by: Farmboy1979 on July 24, 2014, 08:12:26 PM
I'm looking for a 36 tooth, countershaft first gear, if one is available.  Didn't want to buy a whole tranny if I didn't need to...
Title: Spare Tranny parts....
Post by: Redred55 on July 24, 2014, 08:37:39 PM
I should have one-give me a bit to check
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Post by: Bio86 on July 25, 2014, 08:17:16 AM
Would be nice to figure out the materials for the hard to get stuff and start making them.  Could sell a "rebuild" kit for the tranny that just includes all the bushings, washers, clips, etc.
Title: Spare Tranny parts....
Post by: Jerry Hall on July 25, 2014, 12:04:34 PM
Quote from: Bio86;39810
Would be nice to figure out the materials for the hard to get stuff and start making them.  Could sell a "rebuild" kit for the tranny that just includes all the bushings, washers, clips, etc.

I am a mechanical engineer, figuring out the materials is a no brainer.   The hard part is figuring out how to make small runs of gears,  transmission shafts, special splined sleeves, thrust washers, forks etc at a price customers can afford.  I have the machinery it takes to make these parts. I cannot compete with Hondas retail prices making a small runs of one particular gear or shaft etc.  We have to remember that when Honda makes these parts they make thousands of one part number and then makes thousands of the next part number.  If enough customers are willing to pay 2 to 3 times Hondas retail price for these parts I would consider making the necessary tooling to produce these parts.   The after market gears that are currently being made are the easy ones to make and are selling for about $150 to $175 each.
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Post by: Bio86 on July 25, 2014, 12:31:57 PM
Well when they're obsolete I would spend the extra coin to get them for sure, that's just me though.  I didn't necessarily mean making gears and shafts, just the small parts.  I usually always have some gears laying around, just never seem to have the spacers, clips, etc..   How would you go about determining the actual material they used of the 2nd gear #7 bearing in my above post?  Just curious.
Title: Spare Tranny parts....
Post by: Jerry Hall on July 25, 2014, 06:19:27 PM
You need to send the old part to a metallurgical lab.  They can check the hardness of the part and will have to cut the parts in half to look at the depth of the heat treat, They will have to destroy a piece of gear, washer or what ever to determine what the chemical composition of the parts.  A full analysis on each part will usually cost anywhere from 100.00 to $500.00 per part.
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Post by: Bio86 on July 25, 2014, 09:45:46 PM
Niton sells a handheld metal analyzer for around $35k that works well, I think there should be one in every household ha.
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Post by: Pumashine on July 26, 2014, 10:40:40 AM
(http://www.servicehonda.com/hard%20parts/atv/trx250r%2086-89/transmission.jpg)
Title: Spare Tranny parts....
Post by: Pumashine on July 26, 2014, 02:11:58 PM
http://www.partzilla.com/parts/search/Honda/ATV/1986/TRX250R+A/TRANSMISSION/parts.html  
shows 22   90454-KF0-000   WASHER, THRUST (17MM)   $2.53 is still available

I have the 2 [MENTION=124]silverlake250r[/MENTION] needs
Title: Spare Tranny parts....
Post by: Pumashine on July 26, 2014, 02:17:38 PM
Quote from: Farmboy1979;39791
I'm looking for a 36 tooth, countershaft first gear, if one is available.  Didn't want to buy a whole tranny if I didn't need to...
I have this one
Title: Spare Tranny parts....
Post by: Pumashine on July 26, 2014, 02:37:55 PM
Quote from: Bio86;39790
Yah if you look at the manual it says #7, I just know that's what 2nd gear on the sprocket shaft runs on.  Its a fairly soft bushing.
I have one in good shape the other looks to be bad.
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Post by: Bio86 on July 26, 2014, 03:31:07 PM
I'd be interested in it, I owe Mr McCoy one.
Title: Spare Tranny parts....
Post by: Pumashine on July 27, 2014, 11:01:25 AM
Quote from: Bio86;39884
I'd be interested in it, I owe Mr McCoy one.
 My standard asking price for discontinues parts or any part is 1/2 the new price. So if you look at the price in this link and divide by two you will know how much I am asking. http://www.partzilla.com/parts/search/Honda/ATV/1986/TRX250R+A/TRANSMISSION/parts.html
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Post by: silverlake250r on July 28, 2014, 08:34:21 AM
Tony, do you want to sell me both or do you want me to buy the end washer that is still available from the dealer?
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Post by: Pumashine on July 28, 2014, 09:59:04 AM
Quote from: silverlake250r;39973
Tony, do you want to sell me both or do you want me to buy the end washer that is still available from the dealer?
Both is fine, you would pay more for shipping than the part itself.
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Post by: silverlake250r on July 28, 2014, 10:33:29 AM
Total on the site you posted a link to is 7.29, half of that is 3.65. Let me know the total including shipping,. Thanks!!
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Post by: ccaiazza on July 28, 2014, 11:01:11 AM
Tony did you ever find that clutch cable holder that bolts to the case?
Title: Spare Tranny parts....
Post by: Pumashine on August 03, 2014, 03:00:33 PM
Quote from: silverlake250r;39984
Total on the site you posted a link to is 7.29, half of that is 3.65. Let me know the total including shipping,. Thanks!!

Mailed with a forever stamp so shipping was cheap, no charge as I know you help out the rest of us and you would do the same.
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Post by: Farmboy1979 on August 03, 2014, 08:41:46 PM
Quote from: Pumashine;39882
I have this one


$55?
Title: Spare Tranny parts....
Post by: Pumashine on August 03, 2014, 09:39:00 PM
Quote from: Farmboy1979;40335
$55?
Yes, $53 +shipping, but do you have the bushing it rides on? If you are in a hurry I can ship right away. Otherwise we can do it when I get your polished resi clamps done.
Title: Spare Tranny parts....
Post by: silverlake250r on August 04, 2014, 08:56:21 AM
Quote from: Pumashine;40319
Mailed with a forever stamp so shipping was cheap, no charge as I know you help out the rest of us and you would do the same.

Thanks a ton Tony, you're the best!
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Post by: Farmboy1979 on August 05, 2014, 07:49:08 PM
Quote from: Pumashine;40338
Yes, $53 +shipping, but do you have the bushing it rides on? If you are in a hurry I can ship right away. Otherwise we can do it when I get your polished resi clamps done.

Not a huge hurry, I can wait.  Thanks. ETA?
Title: Spare Tranny parts....
Post by: Anthony0327 on August 14, 2014, 10:23:44 PM
Quote from: Jerry Hall;39826
I am a mechanical engineer, figuring out the materials is a no brainer.   The hard part is figuring out how to make small runs of gears,  transmission shafts, special splined sleeves, thrust washers, forks etc at a price customers can afford.  I have the machinery it takes to make these parts. I cannot compete with Hondas retail prices making a small runs of one particular gear or shaft etc.  We have to remember that when Honda makes these parts they make thousands of one part number and then makes thousands of the next part number.  If enough customers are willing to pay 2 to 3 times Hondas retail price for these parts I would consider making the necessary tooling to produce these parts.   The after market gears that are currently being made are the easy ones to make and are selling for about $150 to $175 each.

If you or anyone else is willing to start making parts I will def buy them. Parts are hard to find especially good ones and when you do people rape you on the price anyway. Mite as we'll get new ones for that kind of money.
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Post by: Bio86 on August 15, 2014, 09:53:12 AM
Is there anything in the CR250/500 that has identical parts at all?  I'm assuming no because they probably have different ratio's and altogether different but figured id ask.
Title: Spare Tranny parts....
Post by: Pumashine on August 24, 2014, 11:53:54 AM
Bubba needs "I need the 2 maninshaft sliders to install with the new gears so they will mate good and give a good wear pattern. I want to give the best feedback I can. The Honda numbers are 23491-HA2-010 and 23511-HA2-000"

I will check today and see