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General => Lounge => Topic started by: Deuce on September 24, 2014, 09:29:41 PM
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So I'm not sure if everyone has heard but fullbore is going to be making another run of plastics since they finally got the material. From the mouth of the guys at fullbore themselves they are going to be $650 for a set plus shipping.
I wonder if we could do a group buy orif one of our sponsors or someone on here who is a dealer (or who has the funding) could somehow get a discount due to the quantity we could order. I know there was a decent amount of people interest in the past when there was speculation of production, but now its finally happening.
Personally I'd ideally like to get 3 sets (1 red & 2 white) to outfit my bikes when theyre ready...
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Personally I'd ideally like to get 3 sets (1 red & 2 white) to outfit my bikes when theyre ready...
So if you have not heard you must pre-order. In other words you will get nothing when they are ready. For those that have pre-ordered the plastics and agreed to pay $650 a set will get what they have ordered. If you think you can wait and get a better price after all the orders are filled then good luck with that. I do not plan on trying to piss Fullbore off trying to lower the price. If you don't want to pay the $650 them move on and get Maier. We are fortunate to get this run no matter what the price. Not trying to be a jerk, just like people to treat me with respect when I give the best price I can. When you think you are going to save money with a group buy you must believe the company is over charging you. I can see a company like BDT going in and beating the price down so they can make more money. If this is going to happen I can see Fullbore never making another run of 250r plastic ever again. Don't get me wrong, I like to save money whenever I can. But I fear this will leave a bad taste on this companies pallet. Have you considered why they don't make 250r plastic anymore? A month ago Jason Moore (PDX Bigfoot) quit making 250r parts for this exact same reason. Everyone talks alot but wants to skimp on payment. I'm getting at least 4 sets maybe more if I can afford it! 4 sets pre-ordered and maybe an additional set of orange
In other words FullBore is not making another run of plastics. It will not be for sale after the run is done. If you pre-order a set you will be able to have it shipped to you. If you do not pay for it I guarantee you someone else will!
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Are they only going to offer certain colors or all colors?
Doug
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how do you pre order? are they taking phone calls? email?
thanks in advance
-Jason
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Posted in the chat box 9-23 at 10 AM. Just got off the phone with Fullbore...they are talking names and numbers for red, white or black fenders. call Taylor @ Fullbore 503-261-1418. also see the post on FB.
Red, Black and White full fender or race cut same price. $650 a set plus shipping
Someone was able to order orange. Blue and orange may be available from what people have said.
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So if you have not heard you must pre-order. In other words you will get nothing when they are ready. For those that have pre-ordered the plastics and agreed to pay $650 a set will get what they have ordered. If you think you can wait and get a better price after all the orders are filled then good luck with that. I do not plan on trying to piss Fullbore off trying to lower the price. If you don't want to pay the $650 them move on and get Maier. We are fortunate to get this run no matter what the price. Not trying to be a jerk, just like people to treat me with respect when I give the best price I can. When you think you are going to save money with a group buy you must believe the company is over charging you. I can see a company like BDT going in and beating the price down so they can make more money. If this is going to happen I can see Fullbore never making another run of 250r plastic ever again. Don't get me wrong, I like to save money whenever I can. But I fear this will leave a bad taste on this companies pallet. Have you considered why they don't make 250r plastic anymore? A month ago Jason Moore (PDX Bigfoot) quit making 250r parts for this exact same reason. Everyone talks alot but wants to skimp on payment. I'm getting at least 4 sets maybe more if I can afford it! 4 sets pre-ordered and maybe an additional set of orange
In other words FullBore is not making another run of plastics. It will not be for sale after the run is done. If you pre-order a set you will be able to have it shipped to you. If you do not pay for it I guarantee you someone else will!
I think you got me all wrong Tony... I'm not trying to jew anyone down first and foremost... the price is what it is. But I do know that companies usually offer a discount on a product if it is ordered in bulk. This may not be the case since it is so limited, but if it was possible I like to save cash as much as the next guy.
Hell fullbore could charge $1000 plus your first born for a set and people would pay it (people pay obnoxious amounts for oem plastics). And that may tickle your pickle but me... I ride my bikes. That means these pretty new fenders will get worn (nature of the beast). At $650 I'm definitely going to order a set. If I saved cash then I'd order more. It is what it is... some people have the world to spend on these things. Me... this is just one of my hobbies and I see it as if I can save a few bucks some how some way then I will look into a possible way because that means I have more funds to put elsewhere into my toys.
But anyway I understand supply and demand and how this is great... but people need to stop being so emotional when somone wants to save coin if possible
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But anyway I understand supply and demand and how this is great... but people need to stop being so emotional when somone wants to save coin if possible
When you call you can ask Taylor. Please be polite when you ask if there is a price break. Let us know. What I am saying is I don't see anyone asking the guy at the gas station for a discount if you fill er up. The price of plastic follows the price of gas. Both have tripled compared to what we used to pay in the last 10 years.
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hit them hard and maybe they will consider putting the mold back into the rotation, if they see how many people actually want them. i wish i had the spare change to pick some up.
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hit them hard and maybe they will consider putting the mold back into the rotation
Thats funny as they see it as pain in the azz to make ATV plastics. The $650 price is what they were charging 10 years ago. I guess you guys do not see it the way I do. This is already a group buy. We are the 250r group. If they were to make a run each year I believe you would see the price go up substantially.
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this is cool to hear that they are going to make some. I would love to put my name down for a set. but would not want to be able to pay for them when the time came.
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I got the cash but its for my blazer. Anyone know if this will be a one time deal or do this in a year or so again? Sooo tempting
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IMO only way to be sure he will make more is if we buy all the ones he makes now.. if people preorder and fail to pay, I don't see this happening again
but that's only a guess..
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IMO only way to be sure he will make more is if we buy all the ones he makes now.. if people preorder and fail to pay, I don't see this happening again
but that's only a guess..
I really don't see any going unsold. If you cannot pay when the time comes I am sure there will be another list of people to take up all the extra's. Higgy explained to me that he has been working with the owner Jeff for the last week helping this come together. Kieth just Pm'd me this note. Yeah, I have no problem hanging onto Plastics for you. We'll see what happens, but it looks like they'll be making them again!! Almost a sure thang!! So hopefully all will go well and more runs will be made. I know alot of guys are freaking out cause they cannot afford them at this given point in time. A word to the wise. Start saving
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Thanks Higgy, I called today and ordered another set. He said I was first on the list so you guy's are just followers. .
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Thanks Higgy, I called today and ordered another set.
Color? And if they do make more, what colors (change) are we gonna want?
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Green!!!!!!
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Green!!!!!!
I know I have seen Kawasaki green Fullbores mounted on a Tyrex 2 years ago
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About a year and a half ago i called fullbore wanting to buy a green set and he said he would never make green again. He said i was about 6 months too late
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I wish Tucker Rocky would get a huge shipment, seems like a no brained. I believe the retail price was $279 each piece, my new set back from my hometown dealership was ~$520 out the door.
You are correct Dan. I don't know where this $650 figure ever came from. All the times I ordered they were 275 each/200 cost. I know that was 03-06? I really don't need a set but I might get one maybe just for a spare. Never know how many quads I will end up with down the road.:playful: It is good news though...never thought they would make any ever again.
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You are correct Dan. I don't know where this $650 figure ever came from.
This is not misinformation. The $650 price came from Fullbore as posted on Facebook. Taylor states it is the same price as was for the last 10 years. Maier is $525 shipped to your door. So the $650 is not out of the question. I know for a fact Honda was over $1000 when discontinued
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Fullbore I feel is worth the $650, they are far Superior in quality to Maier. Yes I agree I would like them cheaper, but if they will not make another run anytime soon I'll have to get them now. Gotta decide on red or black, maybe blue hmm.
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Fullbore I feel is worth the $650, they are far Superior in quality to Maier. Yes I agree I would like them cheaper, but if they will not make another run anytime soon I'll have to get them now. Gotta decide on red or black, maybe blue hmm.
I don't know if anybody has been reading the facebook Fullbore thread.
1 Grant is no longer with us .
2. I will be running 250R and banshee all at once in roughly 4-6 weeks depending on when the raw material arrives (and yes I ordered it)
3. Available colors are going to be as follows:
Red, White, Black, Orange, and Blue...
4. I'm sticking with the retail price we've had for the last 10 years at $650/set PLUS shipping (I can fit multiple sets in a box) If that's too rich for your blood, don't buy it.
5. If you're interested call me at (503)-261-1418 to put your name on the list. When material is received I will call everyone back to verify interest and arrange payment.
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I read the Facebook post. Does not matter what was posted. I know what I paid and what I sold them for. Of course he is going to say that's what they have been for 10 years. Otherwise people like me are going to question why so much plus shipping. It makes me wonder why there is such a big push coming from some people. Why do these people care if we buy or not. Someone getting a kickback here or what? Almost starting to sound like someone else with all the pushiness and drama. I will not comment on this anymore it seems to get some peeps angry.
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I according to full bore bought the last set of Green anything they will ever make. It was a year and a half ago Maybe two years. It was $600 plus $100 shipping. Way I c it if you don't like the Price don't buy. I Also remember when gas was 99 cents a gallon but I buy about a grand worth every month now at over three times that.we have complained about Fullbore no longer supporting anything but sxs market. Now they r willing to make a run and here at the heart of r lovers we seem to b complaining about the break we all just got handed.
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I guess Daniels receipt was made with a sharpie.....
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Does any of it really matter???
The really crappy thing here... regardless of the manufacturer is that due to current cost to manufacture, a set of expendable body work is roughly 1/3 rd the cost of an entire 250R.
Everyone is complaining here but I guarantee someone on here will buy several sets and a year from now they will put them in the 4 sale section for $1000 + shipping and there will be 3 pages of PM's from people trying to get their hands on them.
Unfortunately with the ATV market virtually dead compared to say 4 years ago, this is about the best chance we've got for Full Bores.
I'm going to go cry in a corner because I have 3 K&K graphics kits that I never used because I never could afford Full Bores.
I just hope that next year I might have that $1000 and be the first one on the PM list...... cause I sure can't afford them now.
If anyone wants to sponsor or adopt me, I'd like a set in black :smile-new: LOL
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I guess Daniels receipt was made with a sharpie.....
Looks legit to me. He's just not showing the date.
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I'm sure it was within the past 10 years
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Like I said, my instincts tell me something isn't right.
I do see them charging retail price which they are making the extra money the dealer is supposed to get. What i was thinking was not right as a fact Tatlor stated they wanted to do race cut and not full fenders. He said they did not have the tooling to do full fenders?
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I thought he was doing fulls and race cut?
The manufacturer asking full retail and distributing direct is a way to sell his product at the "original price" yet still bank more in the end AND still look good. Taylor cut out the middle man and is going straight to the bank. I suppose I can't blame him. Especially if this is going to be a rare special run. Might as well make as much as he can. I'm sure his materials are more then they were some years ago and I'm also sure we can all agree, our hobby is not a cheap one. Unfortunately we got to pay to play. But boy is it fun to play!
I'd be interested in silver. Maybe I'll give a ring and ask. I know there is interest. Doesn't hurt to ask.
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Yeah he was saying he was going to do race and full fenders since they're the same mould apparently. The mounts is what he said he didn't really have access too for the full fenders if I remember right. They're pretty simple looking, I'm sure people could make them
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What makes the full bore better than Maier plastic? I know the older maier stuff was dull and the fit wasn't the greatest, but the newer stuff is better. Just asking cuz I have no firsthand experience with full bore plastic.
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I personally think Fullbores are the best looking and one of the stronger plastics out there for the race cut look, I'd probably still go Maier for a full front fender. Having a few Maier sets myself, the Fullbore I have are just a lot stronger/thicker, they've taken some pretty hard power rolls and have never discolored from bending or show any cracks. That fighting red set I just bought did fit great and the red looks so good compared to the old Maier red so can't complain either way really.
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Fullbore is stronger and thicker I believe than maier, less flex, IMO the rear maiers get floppy. I bought a set of silvers 2 yrs ago or so, I believe it was the last run they did. Also paid less than the $650. But it is what it is. I think it is worth it, hope they continue to make more runs for our 250R's.
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Let's face it, this is exactly how the laws of economics works, supply and demand.
You're a fool if you believe the final selling price is your cost plus some small profit margin. If it costs you $20 to make something, and people are willing to buy it for $1000, do you know what the final cost is? Here's a hint, it's not $30.
Regardless of the price history, or what you guys know of manufacturing costs, the proof is very clear, and irrefutable. Whatever they USED to be making in profit wasn't enough, or that profit no longer exists because of changing manufacturing costs. And why do we know this, why can we state this as an absolute, indisputable fact? Because they stopped.
They're willing to make them again, in a limited run, for $650. I am willing to buy at $650.
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Here is one a little more recent.
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Um, there are clearly two sides of the fence here....... food for thought..... (or just my 2 cents worth)
What did Hinson clutch baskets used to sell for? ......... and how about now $$$$$$
All of the complaining about price and availability but I don't see anyone on here ponying up to buy hundreds of thousands of dollars of equipment and materials to make us some fenders.
At some point there just isn't going to be fenders available....ever.....at any cost...... then what will we do with our 25-29 year old quads?
OK, I'm done. :lemo:
P.S. I'm also still looking for someone to sponsor me a set.:ride:
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P.S. I'm also still looking for someone to sponsor me a set.:ride:
I have been counting down the weeks. We are on week 4 as I ordered 9-23. I am wondering how many sets Carlos:hyp: has ordered for those who can't afford them at this point in time. With a 30% mark up they should be at $900 a set shipped
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In a few months, XXX will be the sole distributor of Fullbore and all pricing will remain the same bwahahaha
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May get a set of orange just for a backup! Price doesn't bother me any, quality is quality.
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Got any close ups of the orange u have now ^^
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^^^ I remember that to Dan! How did that swinger hold up to that crash? That's one of the nicest swingarms ever!!
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Haha yah my back remembers it too sometimes. Swinger held up fine, just sitting in the shop now since I'm going longer.
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what length swingarm is it
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It's +3
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Not complaining about price here. Just showing history.
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I remember that swingarm it was a work of art.
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I remember that swingarm it was a work of art.
Well thank you I appreciate that! Only took a few weeks of design and about 10 hours of machining lol
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I called Fullbore about making either Green or Yellow and was told those 2 colors will not be available. Of course the only 2 colors Id be interested in, their not gunna make. :/
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Of course the only 2 colors Id be interested in, their not gunna make. :/
But remember they are NEW and paint is an option. If you get a white set you can turn them yellow or green.
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I understand that they are new, and yea Paint is an option but that is something I would never do, it just won't hold up to the abuse of riding.
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Anybody know when the deadline is to order a set of these?
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Anybody know when the deadline is to order a set of these?
they never mentioned a deadline for ordering. I'm willing to bet once they are made they will all sell.
Joe
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they never mentioned a deadline for ordering. Joe
Correct, but you did have to pre-order. I see it the same. Once all orders are paid for then those not paying will be sold to someone else.
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They haven't returned my email and can't get hold on phone.... What's the go??
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Did Fullbore ever give a ballpark shipping price?
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I think I heard somewhere $150
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So $800 for one set of plastics.........
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I heard if you buy multiple they would combine shipping. Either way, Pricey!
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Any news on this guys, I ordered a set of Red.
I was told the blue and orange will be done in January and the Black Red and White will be done at the end of Febuary.
I hope the shipping is not what has been stated that seems like a lot.
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Quoted from FB
Orange white and blue end of January. Red and black end of February
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$150 for shipping is nuts! That can't be right.
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$150 for shipping is nuts! That can't be right.
If you take the size of the box and go to UPS and get it sent all the way to the other side of the US you will see its gonna be just about that with insurance. I was trying to get Higgy to go pick them up when ready and drive up to Portland and pick up my 4 sets.
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I guess it is a really big box.
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I guess it is a really big box.
sure is....32" long x 14" wide x 38" high.
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Anyone get a call back from fullbore?
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Anyone get a call back from fullbore?
not yet. been waiting on red full fendered versions for about 3 years now....whats a few more weeks....lol
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I guess it is a really big box.
sure is a big box. 32" long x 14' wide x 38' high
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sure is a big box. 32" long x 14' wide x 38' high
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Did you just receive this? Are the fenders available yet and if so, what colors?
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They are not available yet.
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nope not ready yet. hoping to hear something soon (from the source). a few guys mentioned (on the facebook pages) that they talked to fullbore....different dates given. if I recall the colors that are going to be available: candy blue, red, white, and black.
[MENTION=506]Number22[/MENTION]: the box I posted was for a set of candy blues that I ordered a couple years ago.
Joe
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I just sold a set of those candy blue's full fender last year for $400. They where mint everywhere but where your boot rides on the rear fenders, they had light scuffing. Crazy, feel like i could have gotten more. Very cool stuff.
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Anyone got any pictures of completed quads that have candy blue plastics? I'm really liking that color. Maybe a white frame?
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Call Taylor Urbach or email FULLBORE tomorrow in the morning. 503-261-1418 Taylor says white will be the first color run