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Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: k10seibel on July 18, 2013, 09:41:01 AM
Just figured I post my quad builds here exclusively for now.... I'll just cut and paste the begining of this thread that was started over at net to save time, but finish it here.
I've had a slow ongoing "rider" build for quite a while (years). I hope to find time to actually ride this one somethime this summer.
Some of the old vintage goodies: NOS (take out) '86 ATC engine. Swapped clyinder out for Selvy ported/polished jug currently at 265cc. Selvy hand pounded/fusion welded sectional pipe with matching silencer. WESTCOAST adjustable swingarm (-1"). Ollins suspension (standard travel). Heavy weighted flyweel & spacer. 200w stator (for future Baja build/dress). I'll be woods/trail riding mostly this year if any....
Here are some pics of the build progress. My two oldest gave powder coating a whirl...

(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/k10seibel/photobucket-63718-1365193164047.jpg)

Here 's some more progress, and a pic of my shy youngest helper taking break.

(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/k10seibel/2013-06-01_19-02-42_560.jpg)
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: Rupp250 on July 18, 2013, 10:12:11 AM
Looking good so far, looks like you got a nice collection there.
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: k10seibel on July 18, 2013, 10:27:26 AM
The carb is a PJ 38, smooth taper bored by Selvys. Rob told me this would be considered to be a Sonic 3 piece. The head is reworked and yields about 14.5 : 1 (200 psi) with this particular cylinder and gaskets. I have to give Rob Selvy a huge thanks for helping me match the cylinder, head, and carb to propper setting/spec. Rob has been instrumental in getting my old engine components dialed in for initial break in.
Here'a few more pics. The first is of the cylinder when I found/bought it.


I've run several heat cycles as well as poked around the yard & back alley way. Now just starting to do finish body chores. I use a "china" grease pencil to guide my drilled outline, then use a hack saw blade to cut the dotted (drilled) line. Then follow up with a portable belt sander and a hand file. This worked really slick for me for a first time trimming front fenders. :excitement:
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: Mony25 on July 18, 2013, 10:34:19 AM
Love looking at your builds always so perfect.
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: k10seibel on July 18, 2013, 10:41:08 AM
Thanks Rupp! Pretty cramped working environment... Wish I had a bigger garage, overwhelming at times. :sign0065:

I've been working on an old set of CAL FAB nerf bars over the last couple months. It took a while to get the reproduced nets back, but well worth the wait. Here's the before and after.

(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/k10seibel/NerfbarsCALFABbefore4.jpg)

(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/k10seibel/NerfbarsCALFABbefore3.jpg)
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: k10seibel on July 18, 2013, 10:42:49 AM
Ahh, thanks Mony!
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: etccb on July 18, 2013, 11:00:47 AM
CALFAB nerfs, sweet. They made high quality alum products. I had a set with pegs back in the day on a 86 and a set like that on a 88. Love the old school stuff. Have you been able to get your hands on a set of the honda mx quad front tires?
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: k10seibel on July 18, 2013, 11:16:27 AM
Thanks, I have a pair of new 22" PRO COMP XC Oats, but only one of the hard to find typical MX team RT 101 Ohtsu lower profile fronts. If anyone knows or has another I'd sure take one!
Here's what it looks like, just a 20 inch unlike the stock 21". Honda Part # 44751-RT101R
Some of these items will come off before actual trail riding, but make for fun photos. Like a Barbie doll with a bunch of dresses to try on.:ride:

(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/k10seibel/photobucket-45430-1354009837464.jpg)

(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/k10seibel/photobucket-49873-1354009610533.jpg)
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: etccb on July 18, 2013, 11:20:52 AM
Those are the ones. They discontinued them way to soon and they were way ahead of their time.
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: Fire1 on July 18, 2013, 08:29:10 PM
Awesome work!
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: TLR-Online on July 18, 2013, 09:42:46 PM
Top notch as always Andy!
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: red88r on July 19, 2013, 01:01:47 AM
Awesome job as usual Andy.....I had a front bumper just like yours on my first 86 I bought.
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: trx88 on July 19, 2013, 11:09:35 AM
what are those rears with the horizontal tread
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: jcs003 on July 19, 2013, 02:13:55 PM
this looks so good.  its like looking in one of the old dirtwheels.

john
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: etccb on July 19, 2013, 02:27:21 PM
trx88, Those are 80's ohtsu race tires used by team honda back in the day. Most were available through your local honda dealer but the team always had custom testing tires.
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: k10seibel on July 19, 2013, 06:36:28 PM
Thanks so much guys!
Old 80's dirtwheels magazines offer many ideas and help with identifying parts. I'm lucky to have a pretty vast collection to draw from.
Here are some (no dimple) Team Honda rear tires that never made it to the general public. The "team only" lower profile Ohtsu is on the left/stock 20" on the right in the side by side photos. I currently have them on an ATC, but will toss them on this TRX at some point for fun.
First a couple articles about the tire rule controversy.

(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/k10seibel/WORKStires2-1.jpg)

(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/k10seibel/WORKStire-2.jpg)

(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/k10seibel/frolicandfarm052.jpg)

(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/k10seibel/frolicandfarm051.jpg)

(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/k10seibel/frolicandfarm049-1.jpg)
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: etccb on July 19, 2013, 06:44:18 PM
Is that a calfab swinger on your atc?
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: christph on July 19, 2013, 07:14:05 PM
Where did you get your Calfab stickers--they look like new ones on your nerf bars?  I've got a Calfab swinger that could use some new stickers.
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: 05450r on July 19, 2013, 07:24:52 PM
I love these old school builds,just the amount of time to find those parts is crazy! Let alone finding some H-traks(on the trx)in that shape! Amazing job!! Im sure the mungen cylinder and suspension was a tough one too!!
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: k10seibel on July 19, 2013, 08:18:10 PM
Thanks again guys! It's a lot of work, but all fun hobbies are.

Quote from: etccb;4672
Is that a calfab swinger on your atc?

I originally thought it was a Cal Fab, but was schooled by a couple of top collectors in the UK. That particular swingarm on the Mugen ATC is a very rare Paul Turner arm. I have a couple other Cal Fabs and this arm has many specific construction differences.


Hard to read... "PAUL TURNER RACING INTERNATIONAL" Some pics of the Paul Turner arm on factory team 250Rs
(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/k10seibel/Swingarm-PaulTurner3.jpg)
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: etccb on July 19, 2013, 08:26:28 PM
porterville, I was there that day!!!!
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: k10seibel on July 19, 2013, 08:29:35 PM
Quote from: christph;4680
Where did you get your Calfab stickers--they look like new ones on your nerf bars?  I've got a Calfab swinger that could use some new stickers.

I have many of the decals. They are reproduced. I think there are a couple colors and styles of the CAL FAB decals. Red/Blue (on my nerf bars) and Orange/Blue. The small white "WARNING" decals was on the CAL FABs too. PM me if you need any. Maybe I should post up all the decals I have to you guys. I have a ton, and will not use them all.... New thread time?

(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/k10seibel/photobucket-39041-1347568191799.jpg)

(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/k10seibel/photobucket-10068-1351190236438.jpg)
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: etccb on July 19, 2013, 08:37:03 PM
I may have some cool old decal stuff, I will dig around this weekend. I believe I have 2 original orange calfab swinger decals and jpracing, axcalibur, bills, and more.
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: k10seibel on July 19, 2013, 09:00:27 PM
Pot em up etccb! Pre 1990 the better. Thanks!
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: etccb on July 19, 2013, 11:53:00 PM
From 85 to 90 I collected a lot of misc decals. I will dig and see what I still have and take pics and post of what I find on monday. I think there will be some good stuff.


*EDIT* =  Score!! Pics up on monday. All original 80's mostly late 80's. Calfab, jpracing, ax caliber, terry kit, fox, axo, and more.....
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: k10seibel on July 21, 2013, 01:17:42 AM
Quote from: etccb;4721
From 85 to 90 I collected a lot of misc decals. I will dig and see what I still have and take pics and post of what I find on monday. I think there will be some good stuff.


*EDIT* =  Score!! Pics up on monday. All original 80's mostly late 80's. Calfab, jpracing, ax caliber, terry kit, fox, axo, and more.....


Great! We should start a new thread for decals/stickers so everyone can show what they've got of any era/year.



 

Got a cool pic yesterday.
Here is a photo that Kenny Roberts and (photographer/engine builder) Rob Selvy shared with me. Kenny is hand fitting & pounding out another work of art.
Looking forward to getting another new pipe from Kenny personaly to proudly display someday. His skills are amazing. Saving up my pennies, Kenny!
:encouragement: This is an old school build thread so please don't be confused by my loyalty. I'm proudly flying only two flags over here. Roberts and Selvy. Both have their "old school" handy work on this old bike.
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: k10seibel on July 21, 2013, 06:36:50 PM
Here's some older 80's & early 90's aftermarket sponsor stickers. I don't have duplicates of them all, just reproduced some &/or purchased from Fast Guy Stuff.
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: pantera1975 on July 21, 2013, 07:08:03 PM
Cool collection of decals you have there. nice build you are doing with the 4 wheeler.
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: etccb on July 22, 2013, 10:26:09 AM
[ATTACH=CONFIG]843[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]844[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]845[/ATTACH]I found these that were put in a photo album around 1990.
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: etccb on July 22, 2013, 10:29:49 AM
I could not get away from the bad glare in the photos. Stickers are sitting on 12" floor tiles for scale.
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: Rupp250 on July 22, 2013, 10:42:14 AM
K10, no worries on what flag your waving, we know whats up. Rob and Kenny are top notch guys.
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: k10seibel on July 22, 2013, 11:11:37 AM
AWESOME stuff there!! You've got some classics. I had a glare battle too... What'cha gana do....
Real nice collection, thanks for post'n!


Quote
Originally Posted by Rupp250-    K10, no worries on what flag your waving, we know whats up. Rob and Kenny are top notch guys.

Thanks I appreciate the note, I just didn't want anyone to get the wrong idea, I'll stay on the high road when it comes to ace, but not a fan... Plenty of useful helpful knowledge at times, but tainted with arrogance (IMHO). I could tell a few funny stories.....
Thanks again, for the support!
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: jcs003 on July 22, 2013, 11:13:51 AM
how will you be restoring the hand-built pipe?  if you dont mind sharing a secret or two.  thank.

john
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: etccb on July 22, 2013, 12:17:56 PM
A lot of the old logo's are still the same. The color's on some will show when they were from and those fox decals look very miami vice lol.
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: TatTooL23 on July 22, 2013, 12:25:36 PM
i have two of the very original screen printed Durablue axle decals that have the multi color fade across them. have tried to get them duplicated but because they r screen printed they use a halftone pattern to cause a blend and a new vinyl printer doesnt do that.
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: enri330r on July 22, 2013, 09:47:04 PM
great job!
I love the retro style, the decals these are excellent
I hope more progress! regards
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: k10seibel on July 23, 2013, 06:34:51 PM
Quote from: jcs003;5061
how will you be restoring the hand-built pipe?  if you dont mind sharing a secret or two.  thank.

john

To be honest I'll probably just leave it be till I figure out a successful method on another less valued pipe. This one still kinda has an okay used patina, and sometimes that's better left alone. I've heard of a few reasonably sound methods of "restoration", but mastered none. You have to reheat (retrace) all the fusion weld lines to replicate the natural bluing in the metal if you strip the original heated look (from blasting or wire wheeling). Honestly, I'm not sold on doing all that  yet. To me they are simply nice when virgin new. I'd rather run this or my other two well used Roberts/Selvy pipes and buy a new one from Kenny for display purposes. Heck, I'd like to buy a few just to hang on the wall. They are an investment though

Like a raw cooking pan or skillet that's oiled or sprayed before use a pipe will develop a similar patina if you oil it before/after each use. Here is my new 200R pipe from Kenny (oiled-not cleared). The detail is beautiful, but will flash rust quite easily if left raw & not oiled up. The second ATC pipe is an old one with plenty of use. It's not really rusty (okay, a little bit), but more of a natural cooked in patina.
I've seen the retracing method done, but only on a far less intricately sectioned pipe (far less seam lines to trace), and yet was told it was a ton of work. ??? I'm also concerned retracing could make the metal brittle ??? I'm no metallurgist.... Another method I've been told, is to strip the rust with acid. That might work better, possibly leaving the natural bluing look intact...??
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: d-rock on July 23, 2013, 07:03:11 PM
try the new wd-40 professional rust remover. looks like it might work.
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: k10seibel on July 23, 2013, 07:15:10 PM
Ok, I'll take a look at that. Thanks. ^^


Well, it's almost there.... I got the body work pretty much done. Still need a couple odd & ends and my state registration stickers. Also have to adjust the front end, and I'm sure other hick ups.
The blood might of been a little over the top??
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: ytman on July 23, 2013, 07:18:09 PM
That ATC pipe is soooooo beautiful. How does he make all the cones blend into the radii like that? So smooth. That is art.
The blood is awesome
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: ISU on July 23, 2013, 09:34:22 PM
Andy this bike is a masterpiece! I love looking at your builds. Absolutely TOP NOTCH!
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: christph on July 24, 2013, 02:35:53 PM
Quote from: racerx250r;5429
Looks amazing Andy, your builds inspired me. Your BDT Wurks pipe and 200R engine are sick.  Check it out on my 85-

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Sweet Wurks pipe!  What did it cost and how does it perform?  I'm thinking about getting one for my ATC 250R and would like some feedback before I commit.
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: k10seibel on July 24, 2013, 05:02:04 PM
Quote from: racerx250r;5429
Looks amazing Andy, your builds inspired me. Your BDT Wurks pipe and 200R engine are sick.  Check it out on my 85-

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Bdt who?? Yet another alter EGO. Can I inspire you to quite posting here, Carlos .
Please move on........
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: etccb on July 24, 2013, 05:23:41 PM
These 200's do not run like a real performance 250, never have, never will. They were/are cool and there was a class for them back in the day which is why they were developed. If there was not a 200 class NOBODY even rob himself would of ever made a build like these 200's for the 250 class. As a matter of fact he didn't. You wanted to race the 250 class you were sold a 250 like k10's trx on here, not one of the 200's. Think of a 125 and think of a 250, they are/were in between. When I raced mid late 80's in my area there were 3 guys with honda trx250r's that had all selvey builds and all 3 were 250's like k10's thread here and I believe all 3 also had that same pipe. These 200's are very cool for the old school collector or to have an old school ride if you wish, just make sure you know what you are getting and be carefull of some built up performance expactations. It would be sad to see a regular guy spend the cash on one and then find out how a good 200 stacks up to an ok 250 if he was expecting more. Don't get me wrong here I love the old school stuff but I am seeing some build up of the 200's for today's use that made me make this post.
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: k10seibel on July 24, 2013, 06:05:34 PM
I appreciate your post etccb.
I don't have my newly rebuilt 200R back together yet to say anything about it's power. I have been told it should be in the neighborhood of 40+ hp as built with the matching carb & pipe. That would be amazing IMO for a 200, but again speculation. Every now and then a 200 would win a 250 heat and even a main back in the day. I'd have to dig up some old articles. Pretty sure "Fast" Freddie Conover (#63) beat & won a factory backed fleet of 250's back in the day. A healthy 200 was known to hang well with the 250's on a tight track from my magazine research. Don't think Freddie was just lucky... I was like 10 yrs old then, though, so what do I know??
I agree that building a "new" 200R is probably not wroth the high expense unless you like the nostalgia aspect. They are a niche item, not understood by everyone.
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: christph on July 24, 2013, 06:11:44 PM
I'm not planning on reducing my 250 to a 200. I'm just interested in the performance of the Wurks pipe in general as I'm getting a Sphynx cylinder and will be in the market for a pipe.  As they say, there is no replacement for displacement so I wouldn't expect even the best 200 to keep up with a 250, especially a modified one.  I read somewhere that Jimmy White and others started the small-bore 2 stroke trend because they wanted to test tires and get in extra practice time.  I love old-school rebuilds too but I'm not a purist.  I'll use old-school parts when I can find them but it is a little too frustrating hunting them down, paying top dollar, etc.  To each his own.  I'm glad the old-school purists are out there because I enjoy seeing their builds.
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: etccb on July 24, 2013, 06:21:53 PM
Thing is even at the 2011 mxdn Ken Roczen blitzed through the field of 250/450 even passing dungey who was on a 450 and chasing down reed who was on a 450. KTM did not place an add saying that their 250 ran like a 450 because they don't. A 200 won a micky thompson race with a inverted field fast guys in the back true. One thing about mickeys and the promoter did it for a show. They awarded passing points toward the championship to get the riders, drivers and teams to agree to it. So high point man was possibly not the winner on the night but the winner on the night was scored at the stripe. mickeys were also a lot of times very one lined and sticky for the trikes. They had to keep the dust down for the trucks and a atc that cant get loose in the turns ends up no fun follow the leader.  My post wasn't about anything that you have ever posted. as a matter of fact you are the perfect person for rob to make some of these for. I have just seen them explained a little different then reality at times and being that I know some fun facts I was just sharing.
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: k10seibel on July 24, 2013, 06:26:15 PM
Quote from: christph;5454
Sweet Wurks pipe!  What did it cost and how does it perform?  I'm thinking about getting one for my ATC 250R and would like some feedback before I commit.

chrisph, you were conversing with an imposter who has left the building.
Bye Elvis! :q8z8M:
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: k10seibel on July 24, 2013, 06:38:42 PM
Quote from: etccb;5500
Thing is even at the 2011 mxdn Ken Roczen blitzed through the field of 250/450 even passing dungey who was on a 450 and chasing down reed who was on a 450. KTM did not place an add saying that their 250 ran like a 450 because they don't. A 200 won a micky thompson race with a inverted field fast guys in the back true. One thing about mickeys and the promoter did it for a show. They awarded passing points toward the championship to get the riders, drivers and teams to agree to it. So high point man was possibly not the winner on the night but the winner on the night was scored at the stripe. mickeys were also a lot of times very one lined and sticky for the trikes. They had to keep the dust down for the trucks and a atc that cant get loose in the turns ends up no fun follow the leader.  My post wasn't about anything that you have ever posted. as a matter of fact you are the perfect person for rob to make some of these for. I have just seen them explained a little different then reality at times and being that I know some fun facts I was just sharing.

I applaud your info and views. Tight, one lined tracks do have consequences.
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: k10seibel on July 25, 2013, 04:14:03 AM
Thanks ISU. I appreciate the kind thoughts. It's been a lot of fun. I got a bit distracted today and apologize for not acknowledging you earlier.
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: yaegerb on July 27, 2013, 11:18:52 AM
The end result was worth the wait Andy.  I absolutely love this quad.  Will you be taking any video of it running?
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: FerrinMotorsports on July 27, 2013, 01:30:16 PM
Quote from: etccb;4634
trx88, Those are 80's ohtsu race tires used by team honda back in the day. Most were available through your local honda dealer but the team always had custom testing tires.


I remember back in the Day when I was working for Honda they were practically giving those tires away.......I think they were selling them for 20.00 a piece (Dealer Cost)...I used the heck out of them when I ran the 86 Atc250r Flattrack racing....
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: k10seibel on July 28, 2013, 05:13:54 PM
Quote from: yaegerb;5996
The end result was worth the wait Andy.  I absolutely love this quad.  Will you be taking any video of it running?

Thanks, yaegerb!
Sure, I can try to do that. I'll see to take some video soon. I don't have a helmet cam, so It might be kinda lame..
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: k10seibel on July 30, 2013, 08:44:18 PM
I might go the Baja look next for fun. I have a old RAM stearing stabilizer to put on and then a set of Baja Design lights and bigger tank. I've got a couple Lance Schoonmaker tanks, but they require trimming the frame's front OE tank tab and hacking up to a set of front fenders. That's a little more than I really want to do right now. So leaning on just this Clarke for the time being.
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: D-dub on July 30, 2013, 10:44:12 PM
This thread is has more eye candy than one man can handle!!! great stuff as always Andy!
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: JasonB on July 31, 2013, 03:14:12 PM
freaking amazing build, i love the attention to detail and all the old school parts/stickers/candy! very cool man, and I love those tires too.
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: stroberts22 on August 14, 2013, 08:25:21 PM
The bike looks awesome! Your attention to detail is unreal. I know the rears are maier fenders but are the front maiers also? If they are maiers how hard is it to put a oem hood on them? The way you trimmed it around the fuel shutoff they scream oem fenders. The only thing that gives them away is the mount on the side and the vents on the side.
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: outsider on August 21, 2013, 08:41:05 PM
Good to see you on here Andy, always enjoy seeing your builds. Thanks for taking the time to share with us.
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: k10seibel on August 22, 2013, 04:45:12 PM
Thanks a lot guys!
Stroberts,
The fronts are Maiers as well. I will try to snap a couple pics of my mounting work. The OE (blue) hood is quite simple, but the lower black nose air scoop is a bit more work. Pics to come......
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: k10seibel on August 24, 2013, 02:45:05 PM
Here is the OE Honda hood mounted up to the Maier front fenders using Honda harwdware from the underside.



The only Maier hardware I used was the two pre-bent short bars that go from the stock frame bolt hole to the Maier drilled hole on each upper side fender. The black lower air scoop isn't held on by much, but holds solid and attaches to the frame via the rubbers on frame posts. I had to relief cut the top (hidden) edges to accommodate the angled Maier metal bars. Again I used Honda harware on the bars instead of the suplied Maier screws/nuts. An OE Honda threaded clip and screw looks and operates a little a cleaner IMHO. I also used a anticrush washer/sleave to bush the plastic's raw edge on eah side fender. These pics should help make sence of my rambling...
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: TRX250R1 on August 24, 2013, 09:23:37 PM
Quote from: k10seibel;4461
Thanks Rupp! Pretty cramped working environment... Wish I had a bigger garage, overwhelming at times. :sign0065:

I've been working on an old set of CAL FAB nerf bars over the last couple months. It took a while to get the reproduced nets back, but well worth the wait. Here's the before and after.

(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/k10seibel/NerfbarsCALFABbefore4.jpg)

(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/k10seibel/NerfbarsCALFABbefore3.jpg)

(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/k10seibel/2013-07-04_19-53-54_762.jpg)

(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/k10seibel/2013-07-07_15-50-08_423.jpg)

(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/k10seibel/2013-07-07_15-49-32_905.jpg)

(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/k10seibel/2013-07-07_15-50-24_777.jpg)


I've gotta set of these!
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: TRX250R1 on August 25, 2013, 07:44:18 AM
SICK BIKE!:victorious:
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: scawn on September 30, 2013, 05:42:21 AM
Those have got to be the most beautiful ATC and TRX250R builds I've seen. The blue TRX's were my favorites and it's what I hope to be able to accomplish as well. Every single part of both of those are exactly what I would do if money were no object with the exception of putting the 85 seat and white numberplate backgounds on the ATC to completely replicate Hart's ride. I remember reading those articles like yesterday. The final race of the season when Steve's TRX broke, giving Gentry the title. I can remember the pic of Wright standing on the edge of the track with his jersey off giving Gentry the thumbs up as he went by, knowing that was the championship riding away. There was nothing like the Team Honda of 1986 and the season they gave. You have certainly brought it back!
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: k10seibel on February 13, 2014, 01:42:22 PM
Thanks scawn!^^^


Scored a rare old HRC factory team Baja light from a new friend. It was used on the ATC efforts and then adapted to a team TRX in later years. The upper knobs allow the rider to adjust the pitch angle on the fly, per the flexible lower rubber mounts. Can't wait!

(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/k10seibel/Old%20School%20Parts/BajaHRClights1.jpg)

(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/k10seibel/Old%20School%20Parts/BajalightonATC.jpg)
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: k10seibel on February 13, 2014, 02:10:41 PM
Also got a new (NOS) Wax seat for the retro Baja theme. Probably will be a while before I get to installing this stuff....

(http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/117_267_2017-04-18_8143.jpg)(http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/117_582_2017-04-18_5696.jpg)
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: ytman on February 13, 2014, 07:54:37 PM
You know I want to see more pics of that beauty light bar and how it mounts. Nice score. At least show the back side. cmon cmon pleasepleaseplease
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: TRX250R1 on February 13, 2014, 11:24:16 PM
Nice!!!
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: k10seibel on February 14, 2014, 03:25:42 PM
Keep in mind this needs a full restoration, but is in pretty good shape considering the abuse it's taken. Here is a top and bottom view. It has been modified from it's original ATC mounting to a TRX in later years. It's hard to see, but the bottom of the lights mount to a thick rubber mount, allowing for pivoting adjustment.

(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/k10seibel/Old%20School%20Parts/BajaHRClightsbackside.jpg)


(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/k10seibel/Old%20School%20Parts/BajaHRClightsbottom.jpg)
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: jcs003 on February 14, 2014, 04:26:32 PM
you should challenge rick's restorations to a  build off.haha

john
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: k10seibel on February 14, 2014, 06:14:48 PM
Rick would have it done in a week. I'm waaaay slower.
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: ytman on February 14, 2014, 07:09:49 PM
Awesome k10 I can't wait to see the rest of it. You know, the rack that it pins in to. I've fabbed up a couple myself so I'm interested to see how others have done it.
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: k10seibel on February 15, 2014, 12:50:45 PM
ytman,
This light bar "pinned" into a bracket welded to the frame on the previous owner's machine. I'd like to go with a bolt on configuration. Do you have any suggestions from your experience? Pics possibly?
Thanks!
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: ytman on February 15, 2014, 02:06:28 PM
Unfortunately I didn't take any close up pics of the brackets I made on my latest version but you can probably get the idea.
I used to run a bolt on "rack" and pin the light bar in like the one you just got so it could be put on and taken off quickly.(http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/172_634_2017-04-18_1851.jpg)(http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/172_635_2017-04-18_766.jpg) Then you ride around with a big ol frame on the front of your bike.(http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/172_636_2017-04-18_8306.jpg)So I made smaller brackets using the upper shock bolts to mount the rubber grommets to(I used radiator rubbers) and another bracket using the steering stem bolts. It's still a quick release set up just without the rack. (http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/172_637_2017-04-18_6755.jpg)(http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/172_70_2017-04-18_8398.jpg)(http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/172_72_2017-04-18_5826.jpg)
This one is untested tho. The other one proved itself in the Vegas to Reno a hundred years ago.
My old racing buddy Charlie Lamson had a Honda issue light bar just like yours and we moved the pins on it to mount on the red rack in the picture.
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: k10seibel on February 15, 2014, 04:29:12 PM
Okay, cool. THANKS for the photos!! Helps me brainstorm a bit.
What I'm thinking is,  I'll try going from top shock bolt to top shock bolt under the plastic with a bridge like brace bracket, and have the two pins on the light bar frame come down through the hood, and into the bridge brace bracket w/rubber cushions.
Down through the hood is how it was previously mounted on the seller's TRX. He just had a the pin mount bracket WELDED to his TRX's frame. I would rather not weld on my freshly PC'd frame or modify the light bar frame any further if possible. We will see though....?? I don't know if you can tell by my pics, but it's already set up to bolt to the steering stem block.
It's a project for sure, but I 'm sure it'll be reasonably easy. Thanks again, ytman!
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: ytman on February 15, 2014, 07:33:51 PM
I did see that mount on there. It seems odd that it would have both rubber and solid mounts. Do you have to reach under the hood to pin it? I know it's gonna be bad a## you make good stuff. I had a mount that was directly in front of the steering stem and I didn't like what it did to the brake line and cable routing. I had to create a "passage" down the middle for them. Looking forward to seeing what you come up with.
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: k10seibel on February 15, 2014, 07:49:34 PM
Thanks I know what you talking about with the brake line. I think this has a passage to deal with that. Still waiting for it to arrive (pics are from seller). Yes, I'm guessing you either reach under or have to remove the front plastic. I haven't seen the hood hole locations (he has old hood still). I'm sure It'll be some work, and probably a while before I get at it. So many projects, and more arrive weekly.
Thanks for the help and input!
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: ytman on April 08, 2014, 07:49:07 PM
Hey K10, I saw this picture and thought of you. This looks like the "rack" that my buddy had for the light bar like yours. You're prolly goin for sumthin more streamlined.(http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/172_1553_2017-04-18_170.jpg)
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: fearlessfred on April 08, 2014, 10:28:07 PM
ytman is that middle pic the backside of parump
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: Brett on April 09, 2014, 12:56:00 AM
That pipe boggles my mind. Why did they route it like that and not more like traditional R pipes?

-Brett-
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: ytman on April 09, 2014, 06:38:36 AM
ytman is that middle pic the backside of parump/ It may be, but then again, it could be anywhere in Nevada.haha
That pipe boggles my mind. Why did they route it like that and not more like traditional R pipes?/It is routed like a traditional R pipe. It's just longer.
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: Brett on April 09, 2014, 10:21:50 PM
I meant the pipe on the selvy bike.

-Brett-
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: ytman on April 10, 2014, 06:19:48 AM
My bad. Sorry
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: k10seibel on October 09, 2014, 05:40:29 PM
I'll have to go back and fix this thread from the start. I moved pictures around on my photobucket account and now many of my pics are missing here from previous posts...
Well anyway, this one is pretty much done.



(http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/117_3381_2017-04-18_6679.jpg)(http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/117_3382_2017-04-18_5142.jpg)(http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/117_3383_2017-04-18_8089.jpg)(http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/117_3384_2017-04-18_6389.jpg)
Title: '86 TRX Selvy retro racer build
Post by: etccb on October 09, 2014, 06:45:06 PM
Your builds always bring back some great old school memories. Well done again...