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Title: Longer kicker
Post by: 2k1lvr on April 22, 2016, 02:10:00 PM
Does anyone know of a kicker that is longer and will work? I've got alot of compression and I'm old and my knees getting bad! Lol
Title: Longer kicker
Post by: rablack21 on April 22, 2016, 02:30:53 PM
I don't know of any longer kicker, but I have heard of some guys using a compression release. I would look into that instead.
Title: Longer kicker
Post by: Skeans1 on April 22, 2016, 04:29:39 PM
Quote from: 2k1lvr;66854
Does anyone know of a kicker that is longer and will work? I've got alot of compression and I'm old and my knees getting bad! Lol

Esr has a dual plug and as Ryan said you could put a compression release they make them in the same threads as spark plugs available on amazon.
Title: Longer kicker
Post by: Rupp250 on April 22, 2016, 04:44:31 PM
350x kicker is longer.
Title: Longer kicker
Post by: thesmith87250r on April 22, 2016, 04:48:33 PM
Depending on the exhaust you  have would ya have clearance issues ? With your toes or the kicker ?
Title: Longer kicker
Post by: fourtrax on April 22, 2016, 06:24:42 PM
Quote from: Skeans1;66860
Esr has a dual plug and as Ryan said you could put a compression release they make them in the same threads as spark plugs available on amazon.

Great idea!!
Title: Longer kicker
Post by: Rupp250 on April 22, 2016, 11:29:25 PM
Unsure on interference. Compared to ESR.
(http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/30_7631_2017-04-18_4401.jpg)
(http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/30_7632_2017-04-18_5197.jpg)
Title: Longer kicker
Post by: 2k1lvr on April 27, 2016, 06:39:15 AM
Great idea skeans1  I have esr billet head that came with my big bore kit.I wonder if I could install one on it somehow?
Title: Longer kicker
Post by: dem3500 on April 27, 2016, 08:18:12 AM
i know on my trx5b a longer kicker would most likely not work. the kicker is close and as it is my toe hits the pipe. i would also like to look into a compression release. does the extra hole in the head affect the dome aspects at all? depending on the depth of the release into the hole wouldnt that affect the cc size of the dome?
Title: Longer kicker
Post by: Rupp250 on April 27, 2016, 09:44:35 AM
Possibly could affect the CC size of the head. I would be more interested in the burn pattern of using the one plug offset to the side.
Title: Longer kicker
Post by: Skeans1 on April 27, 2016, 09:47:28 AM
Quote from: 2k1lvr;66976
Great idea skeans1  I have esr billet head that came with my big bore kit.I wonder if I could install one on it somehow?

It'll need to be a dual plug head http://www.eddie-sanders-racing.com/product_p/billet%20head%202plug%20trx.htm [MENTION=1175]dem3500[/MENTION] there's pictures of the dome there too
Title: Longer kicker
Post by: dem3500 on April 27, 2016, 10:39:03 AM
Quote from: Rupp250;66980
Possibly could affect the CC size of the head. I would be more interested in the burn pattern of using the one plug offset to the side.

i would guess with that much of an angle you would have to index the plug
Title: Longer kicker
Post by: dem3500 on April 27, 2016, 10:47:50 AM
Quote from: Rupp250;66980
Possibly could affect the CC size of the head. I would be more interested in the burn pattern of using the one plug offset to the side.

just by looking at the pic, id say the plug is on the same angle as the single plug head
Title: Longer kicker
Post by: dem3500 on April 27, 2016, 10:54:29 AM
use the dual plug head and a standard dome. drill a small hole from the second plug location in the head into the dome. that way you dont have a really big hole that may affect the CC of the dome. i have no idea how big of a hole would be deeded for enough decomp to actually feel a difference but if you started small you could always go bigger
Title: Longer kicker
Post by: dem3500 on April 27, 2016, 11:00:17 AM
Quote from: Skeans1;66860
Esr has a dual plug and as Ryan said you could put a compression release they make them in the same threads as spark plugs available on amazon.

this?

http://www.amazon.com/TP-Engineering-Compression-Release-45-4020-21/dp/B000WP1SV8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1461769139&sr=8-1&keywords=motorcycle+compression+release
Title: Longer kicker
Post by: Skeans1 on April 27, 2016, 11:09:32 AM
Quote from: dem3500;66989
this?

http://www.amazon.com/TP-Engineering-Compression-Release-45-4020-21/dp/B000WP1SV8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1461769139&sr=8-1&keywords=motorcycle+compression+release
Like this for the spark plug

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000GTVDKQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?qid=1461769598&sr=8-9&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=motorcycle+compression+release
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Title: Longer kicker
Post by: dem3500 on April 27, 2016, 11:14:07 AM
Quote from: Skeans1;66990
Like this for the spark plug

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000GTVDKQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?qid=1461769598&sr=8-9&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=motorcycle+compression+release
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ok so how does that work? you screw the decomp lever into that?
Title: Longer kicker
Post by: Skeans1 on April 27, 2016, 01:37:31 PM
Quote from: dem3500;66991
ok so how does that work? you screw the decomp lever into that?

Just like a normal decompression just push the top down.
Title: Longer kicker
Post by: dem3500 on April 27, 2016, 02:11:54 PM
Quote from: Skeans1;67000
Just like a normal decompression just push the top down.

ok to be honest i dont know how that works at all lol. i have a old honda utility quad with a decomp. its just a lever built into the head. it resets itself after the first kick.
Title: Longer kicker
Post by: Skeans1 on April 27, 2016, 02:13:07 PM
Quote from: dem3500;67002
ok to be honest i dont know how that works at all lol. i have a old honda utility quad with a decomp. its just a lever built into the head. it resets itself after the first kick.
Push the top down and the self release it helped me a huge amount on my quadzilla starting it.

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Title: Longer kicker
Post by: dem3500 on April 27, 2016, 02:16:44 PM
Quote from: Skeans1;67003
Push the top down and the self release it helped me a huge amount on my quadzilla starting it.

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ok gotcha. thanks.
Title: Longer kicker
Post by: JesseA420 on April 27, 2016, 03:24:38 PM
also with that longer kicker it might hit ur peg. also only being a slight bit longer i doubt it would make a whole lot of difference on being easier to kick.