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Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: havinnoj on June 18, 2016, 06:16:08 PM: This build thread is a bit overdue.

Been toying with the idea of building a big Puma for the dunes over the last couple of years. No donor bottom end was supplied so the majority of bottom end parts are NOS or OEM take-outs - definitely NOT a cost effective way to build a motor!

Started with a set of OEM ATC cases (complete with VIN stickers), courtesy of [MENTION=54]Redred55[/MENTION]:
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc510/havinnoj/250R/443%20Puma%20250R/02F016B2-C482-4DA8-B0F2-58136E407E71.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/havinnoj/media/250R/443%20Puma%20250R/02F016B2-C482-4DA8-B0F2-58136E407E71.jpg.html)

Puma top end shows up @ Hybrid Engineering:
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc510/havinnoj/250R/443%20Puma%20250R/D9DB21D2-5E57-4182-9C38-26C790FF9C57.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/havinnoj/media/250R/443%20Puma%20250R/D9DB21D2-5E57-4182-9C38-26C790FF9C57.jpg.html)

Had Crank Works (http://www.crankworks.com) build me a +6mm from OEM halves. Now for the crank porn:
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc510/havinnoj/250R/443%20Puma%20250R/511EF829-87D5-4063-957C-C68C48E4FF14_1.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/havinnoj/media/250R/443%20Puma%20250R/511EF829-87D5-4063-957C-C68C48E4FF14_1.jpg.html)
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc510/havinnoj/250R/443%20Puma%20250R/259B944C-0ECB-406E-8BB0-CCD4F57F6A69.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/havinnoj/media/250R/443%20Puma%20250R/259B944C-0ECB-406E-8BB0-CCD4F57F6A69.jpg.html)
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc510/havinnoj/250R/443%20Puma%20250R/E31DB5C3-44BC-4EA4-9290-26CFEC575F9D.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/havinnoj/media/250R/443%20Puma%20250R/E31DB5C3-44BC-4EA4-9290-26CFEC575F9D.jpg.html)

Making progress:
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc510/havinnoj/250R/443%20Puma%20250R/C70E9C70-5ED4-48D1-A7E6-CBE0BC5D50F8.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/havinnoj/media/250R/443%20Puma%20250R/C70E9C70-5ED4-48D1-A7E6-CBE0BC5D50F8.jpg.html)
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc510/havinnoj/250R/443%20Puma%20250R/1E847BC1-1A2C-4458-AD04-053AED35676C.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/havinnoj/media/250R/443%20Puma%20250R/1E847BC1-1A2C-4458-AD04-053AED35676C.jpg.html)

Assembly begins:
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc510/havinnoj/250R/443%20Puma%20250R/3B359833-CD5A-42C2-B9D4-95D2ACAC2351.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/havinnoj/media/250R/443%20Puma%20250R/3B359833-CD5A-42C2-B9D4-95D2ACAC2351.jpg.html)
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc510/havinnoj/250R/443%20Puma%20250R/6E502C88-5E94-4453-82D3-BFED7A61214C.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/havinnoj/media/250R/443%20Puma%20250R/6E502C88-5E94-4453-82D3-BFED7A61214C.jpg.html)
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: havinnoj on June 18, 2016, 06:26:33 PM: Now just waiting on [MENTION=74]traxman[/MENTION] to finish polishing the cylinder :lol:
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: atv fan 28 on June 18, 2016, 06:41:56 PM: ^^^ join the club!! :)
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: Pumashine on June 18, 2016, 10:46:15 PM: Looks great when you start. Be sure to get lots of pics after assembly. The bottom end polish will only last so long, so savor it while its still shiny.
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: jafa0 on June 19, 2016, 02:08:26 AM: I saw that crank at Pete's, when I dropped off my motor last month. Pretty impressive workmanship, with all the heavy metal they added and that massively reworked rod.
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: Michael88R on June 19, 2016, 11:47:51 AM: What rod r u using? Looks big
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: havinnoj on June 19, 2016, 12:34:41 PM: Quote from: michael88r;68306
what rod r u using? Looks big

yz490
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: Big_Mike on June 19, 2016, 02:37:34 PM: Looks amazing can't wait to see finish product!!
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: mandom250r on June 19, 2016, 03:20:48 PM: No over ride? This is the one going on the LSR hillshooter right?
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: havinnoj on June 19, 2016, 03:23:35 PM: Quote from: mandom250r;68311
No over ride? This is the one going on the LSR hillshooter right?

No override. 2 different Puma's. This motor is going in my dune bike. The LSR hillshooter already has a Puma in it. :D
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: Sand_Blaster on June 20, 2016, 02:42:55 AM: Killer build! Puma dunner is on my wish list.
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: Piediddy on June 20, 2016, 08:40:00 AM: What pipe and carb are you gonna run on it?
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: havinnoj on June 20, 2016, 11:19:35 AM: Quote from: jafa0;68301
I saw that crank at Pete's, when I dropped off my motor last month. Pretty impressive workmanship, with all the heavy metal they added and that massively reworked rod.
Yes it really is gorgeous. I took it to Crank Works personally with I was in AZ and checked on it a handful of times to make sure it was exactly as desired. There was a ton of work involved on their end and the $1300 bill reflected that!

Quote from: Sand_Blaster;68327
Killer build! Puma dunner is on my wish list.
Thank you sir!

Quote from: Piediddy;68330
What pipe and carb are you gonna run on it?
LED Puma pipe to start and 40.5 PWK carb.
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: havinnoj on July 07, 2016, 11:55:35 AM: Cylinder received some polishing love from [MENTION=74]traxman[/MENTION], Cascade to finish up the head:
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc510/havinnoj/250R/443%20Puma%20250R/7BFFFEBF-D2D6-4CCF-9B4D-23C29B59000C.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/havinnoj/media/250R/443%20Puma%20250R/7BFFFEBF-D2D6-4CCF-9B4D-23C29B59000C.jpg.html)

And [MENTION=276]ledperformance[/MENTION]'s gorgeous Puma pipe:
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc510/havinnoj/250R/443%20Puma%20250R/15281892-1883-4205-AF7E-ABEC9FD8E586.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/havinnoj/media/250R/443%20Puma%20250R/15281892-1883-4205-AF7E-ABEC9FD8E586.jpg.html)

(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc510/havinnoj/250R/443%20Puma%20250R/B64E6D53-306D-4E87-B488-F08792BA5F33.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/havinnoj/media/250R/443%20Puma%20250R/B64E6D53-306D-4E87-B488-F08792BA5F33.jpg.html)
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: rk88r on July 07, 2016, 04:22:51 PM: Sweet!
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: jcs003 on July 08, 2016, 05:28:32 AM: amazing!

john
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: jadleybray on July 08, 2016, 10:48:21 AM: Nice view of the river!!
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: udontknowme on July 08, 2016, 03:52:04 PM: sweet project. hopefully the crank doesnt give you any trouble with the lower pin being moved so high on the webs
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: Rupp250 on July 08, 2016, 03:54:31 PM: Quote from: udontknowme;68651
sweet project. hopefully the crank doesnt give you any trouble with the lower pin being moved so high on the webs

My plus 6 as had no issues with the crank.
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: udontknowme on July 08, 2016, 03:59:40 PM: Quote from: Rupp250;68652
My plus 6 as had no issues with the crank.

thats good. hopefully it stays that way. when you thin out the material above the pin it can get alittle sketchy
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: havinnoj on July 09, 2016, 08:51:04 PM: Getting close...

(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc510/havinnoj/250R/443%20Puma%20250R/D50E6922-B71F-49A7-A944-8AF7CA63B501.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/havinnoj/media/250R/443%20Puma%20250R/D50E6922-B71F-49A7-A944-8AF7CA63B501.jpg.html)

(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc510/havinnoj/250R/443%20Puma%20250R/513A3E53-7BFF-4C50-AEC5-23444E139CEB.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/havinnoj/media/250R/443%20Puma%20250R/513A3E53-7BFF-4C50-AEC5-23444E139CEB.jpg.html)
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: atv fan 28 on July 09, 2016, 08:58:49 PM: I like how you left my engine out of the pics! :)
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: Pumashine on July 10, 2016, 12:02:06 AM: Quote from: atv fan 28;68680
I like how you left my engine out of the pics! :)
I would take it Pete does not take pics of all the motors?
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: atv fan 28 on July 10, 2016, 12:05:37 AM: If you say so.
(http://i66.tinypic.com/2l8w0g8.jpg)
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: Big_Mike on July 10, 2016, 02:31:06 PM: GOOD LORD!!!!! Never mind internet porn...
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: havinnoj on July 10, 2016, 03:41:32 PM: Quote from: Big_Mike;68689
GOOD LORD!!!!! Never mind internet porn...

Should see all the CP-equipped motors in the shop!
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: Skeans1 on July 10, 2016, 04:14:06 PM: Quote from: havinnoj;68691
Should see all the CP-equipped motors in the shop!

And the drag car
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: Big_Mike on July 10, 2016, 10:11:11 PM: I got the drag car covered.. ;)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/bigmike11554/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/C34AFFB2-A3DA-4B5C-9CAA-0B0C5E537A3C.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bigmike11554/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/C34AFFB2-A3DA-4B5C-9CAA-0B0C5E537A3C.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/bigmike11554/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/B715AE15-1B0D-4EB4-BDBD-096E863E928C_1.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bigmike11554/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/B715AE15-1B0D-4EB4-BDBD-096E863E928C_1.jpg.html)
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: jwraymond6 on July 10, 2016, 10:16:42 PM: He's got mine there somewhere
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: havinnoj on July 11, 2016, 10:20:04 PM: Nice car [MENTION=875]Big_Mike[/MENTION] - you should throw up a thread on that sometime.. would love to know more about it!
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: havinnoj on July 15, 2016, 10:17:36 PM: And it's done.. minus a couple small things:

(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc510/havinnoj/250R/443%20Puma%20250R/D70802F5-F2A2-45E3-B72F-0A045C900BF5.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/havinnoj/media/250R/443%20Puma%20250R/D70802F5-F2A2-45E3-B72F-0A045C900BF5.jpg.html)
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: The norm on July 16, 2016, 12:17:44 AM: Looks awesome. I bet it's going to put a smile on your face!
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: JesseA420 on July 16, 2016, 07:06:19 AM: did you find those hinson clutch components or have you been hoarding them since they were still being made lol?
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: havinnoj on July 16, 2016, 02:02:38 PM: Quote from: JesseA420;68816
did you find those hinson clutch components or have you been hoarding them since they were still being made lol?

This motor has no Hinson components - all OEM with a Slingshot. But I do have a couple spare Hinson 8 plate setups and a bunch of extra bling:

(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc510/havinnoj/250R/250%20Parts/5DD52D08-20DC-40DE-BFA9-BE689338BB33.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/havinnoj/media/250R/250%20Parts/5DD52D08-20DC-40DE-BFA9-BE689338BB33.jpg.html)
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: Skeans1 on July 16, 2016, 02:48:40 PM: Quote from: havinnoj;68819
This motor has no Hinson components - all OEM with a Slingshot. But I do have a couple spare Hinson 8 plate setups and a bunch of extra bling:

(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc510/havinnoj/250R/250%20Parts/5DD52D08-20DC-40DE-BFA9-BE689338BB33.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/havinnoj/media/250R/250%20Parts/5DD52D08-20DC-40DE-BFA9-BE689338BB33.jpg.html)

You going to tease the guys or let some of it go?
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: havinnoj on July 16, 2016, 02:51:55 PM: Quote from: Skeans1;68822
You going to tease the guys or let some of it go?

Silly Jared.. you know better than to ask that question! :lol:

Full disclosure: both Merrell waterpump covers are now used as are a couple of those Hinson plates - only have 3 plates now that aren't used.
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: Sand_Blaster on July 25, 2016, 06:00:04 PM: Wow looks amazing, any idea what kinda hp this will throw down?
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: havinnoj on July 25, 2016, 06:31:51 PM: Quote from: Sand_Blaster;68969
Wow looks amazing, any idea what kinda hp this will throw down?

Thanks. This is setup for a midrange dune motor. At some point I'd like to get it on a dyno and test a few things.
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: Holt on October 16, 2016, 05:54:39 PM: Damm! That's sick
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: 2ndmoto on October 17, 2016, 01:28:37 AM: Mike, I think my turbo could fit inside the inlet of yours. I got nothing on that thing. Birds and small children beware
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: Big_Mike on October 17, 2016, 11:27:22 AM: That's only the 76mm, its setup for a 106mm!
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: Pumashine on October 17, 2016, 09:25:54 PM: Quote from: Big_Mike;68689
GOOD LORD!!!!! Never mind internet porn...

Quote from: havinnoj;68819
:(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc510/havinnoj/250R/250%20Parts/5DD52D08-20DC-40DE-BFA9-BE689338BB33.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/havinnoj/media/250R/250%20Parts/5DD52D08-20DC-40DE-BFA9-BE689338BB33.jpg.html)

Wow, just wow. I don't even care about riding, I will just look at pics all week end :rofl:
Title: 443 Puma - Dune Motor Build
Post by: havinnoj on November 03, 2016, 06:26:27 PM: Rust check

(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc510/havinnoj/250R/443%20Puma%20250R/E1A90A17-2251-4A5C-88A2-F2DA47DBB057.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/havinnoj/media/250R/443%20Puma%20250R/E1A90A17-2251-4A5C-88A2-F2DA47DBB057.jpg.html)