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General => Lounge => Topic started by: Langbolt on July 06, 2016, 10:01:34 PM
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:congratulatory:
http://www.ktm.com/ca-en/enduro/300-xc-w-1/
I wonder who'll be the first to try this powerplant in a QUAD ?
Case inducted - Hydraulic Clutch - Electric Start
And......COUNTER BALANCED
:congratulatory:
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some good reading. http://dirtbiketest.com/fresh-dirt/2017-ktm-official-model-release-what-you-need-to-know/
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& it's a 6spd :cool:
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i see another hybrid in my future.
john
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I'm really excited about this. I think/hope this will set off a run of manufacturers coming up with new 2-stroke technology
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I want one!! The only thing it's missing is electronic reverse.
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If someone did a nice clean swap into a KTM quad I wonder if KTM would look into creating a production model.
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If the bike cost 9k new it will be a bit before a cheap motor is avaliable.
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KTM and cheap do not go together. But I do think this would be an awesome quad motor. I have an 08 300 xcw. And love the power delivery
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nothing new here , so to speak. they simply applied a old idea to a modern engine. one article even said they tried a prototype counter balanced engine quit a few years back but scraped the idea. maybe they couldnt get it sorted out at the time. in no way do i see this putting a new flame under the japs to make a modern 2stroke
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in no way do i see this putting a new flame under the japs to make a modern 2stroke
Unfortunately this is probably dead on. Especially in Honda's eye's.
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Unfortunately this is probably dead on. Especially in Honda's eye's.
I don't think its just Honda
imo nothing that ktm is doing will alter the course the japs are on. I believe the 2stroke offroad market is plenty strong but for whatever reason the japs seem uninterested
about the counterbalancer. was it necessary... certainly not but since ktm redesigned the new engine from several different angles , im sure they felt the counterbalancer would be icing on the cake to make the whole package just that much sweeter and definatly more appealing to a lot of folks. chances are it will bring new people into the 2stroke market, imo. I have a feeling that it may be very difficult to get one of these new models unless you have your name on a dealers waiting list
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I don't think its just Honda
imo nothing that ktm is doing will alter the course the japs are on. I believe the 2stroke offroad market is plenty strong but for whatever reason the japs seem uninterested
about the counterbalancer. was it necessary... certainly not but since ktm redesigned the new engine from several different angles , im sure they felt the counterbalancer would be icing on the cake to make the whole package just that much sweeter and definatly more appealing to a lot of folks. chances are it will bring new people into the 2stroke market, imo. I have a feeling that it may be very difficult to get one of these new models unless you have your name on a dealers waiting list
You get guys like me and I'm sure how aren't in the same issue but my hand fall asleep fast maybe the test risers had this issue.
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KTM engineers got it figured it out as far as port design and a modular system. these engines are smaller tha the old 125cc japanese machines.
john
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You get guys like me and I'm sure how aren't in the same issue but my hand fall asleep fast maybe the test risers had this issue.
well everyone has their opinion on vibration. having owned the latest generation 300 the vibes didn't bother me and certainly not to the point of numb hands
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well everyone has their opinion on vibration. having owned the latest generation 300 the vibes didn't bother me and certainly not to the point of numb hands
I agree my 08 300 is nothing like my cr500 was
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ended up buying one of these bikes few months ago and forgot to post what I think but the 2017 is a sweet machine, atleast so far. the balancer is just one of many things that were changed on the new model. all new redesigned crankcases. crankshaft is positioned nearly 20mm higher and one of the trans shafts is higher if I recall also. no the buzzing isnt gone completely but theres certainly a lot less of it. the whole chassis from the previous year was pretty much scrapped and they started over. airforks are now standard equipment which are 3.5lbs lighter than previous upside down sprung forks. cooling system is one of the updated areas that I noticed right away. the plastic louvers in front of the rads that typically fit loose and function really only as rock shielding, are now tight fiting and actually serve a good purpose, forcing the air to go through the fins rather than spill out the sides. cooling passages in the head are supposedly redesigned but its hard to say whats different without slicing the head open. rads are a new generous sized single row design. protaper bars are standard along with footpegs and gear shifter getting all new designs to keep mud and debris from accumulating. im sure the rear suspension linkage geometry is likely something new since the overall seat height is alittle lower than last year but I haven't dug into the specifics on that. a lot of other little stuff like a super grip seat and high end D.I.D wheels. front sprocket is now held in place with a bolt and large washer into the trans shaft like Hondas, rather than a circlip like in years past. 38mm mikuni now instead of keihin. to find out more you can check out the ktm or Husqvarna websites http://www.husqvarna-motorcycles.com/us/motocross/two-stroke/tc-250-1/. might be spring before I can do anymore riding as the weather went to shit for this year