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Title: WTF Lonestar - Manufacturing Mistake or Normal?
Post by: CTGT2005 on January 29, 2017, 11:48:41 AM
Need some help on this one. I ordered a Lonestar footpeg frame back in September '16. I also asked if they would be kind enough to put a front propeg mount on "in the standard 250r propeg location". Well this is what ended up showing up last week. The mount would need nerfs that are close to 23" ctc spacing. Is this correct? I have never in my life seen a 250r (lonestar or other) with a propeg stud in this spot. I am thinking the pipe wont even clear because that's where it tucks through the frame.

Like to hear your thoughts on this one as it doesn't look right to me but have been assured by the lead sales guy that they put it in the right spot. If it is correct, who makes a 23" propeg nerf?  


(http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/1849_8534_2017-04-18_317.jpg)
Title: WTF Lonestar - Manufacturing Mistake or Normal?
Post by: jwraymond6 on January 29, 2017, 12:34:44 PM
Mines older and I bought it used but you can see mines in a different spot where I would think it should

http://trx250r.org/threads/6592-My-LSR-duner-build
Title: WTF Lonestar - Manufacturing Mistake or Normal?
Post by: desertR on January 29, 2017, 12:55:04 PM
Check out the vender thread in the lounge.
desertR
Title: WTF Lonestar - Manufacturing Mistake or Normal?
Post by: croat1 on January 29, 2017, 01:33:15 PM
i have never seen the tube in that location.  most if not all 250R propegs are (16.5"-17.5").  pipe clearance, a arms/tire clearance.....

Joe
Title: WTF Lonestar - Manufacturing Mistake or Normal?
Post by: Tbone07 on January 29, 2017, 02:23:50 PM
That's not right. I've never seen the tube in that location before on any aftermarket frame. 16.5" is usually where they're at
Title: WTF Lonestar - Manufacturing Mistake or Normal?
Post by: hontrx265r on January 29, 2017, 04:04:00 PM
lsr makes that spread now.
Title: WTF Lonestar - Manufacturing Mistake or Normal?
Post by: btw250 on January 29, 2017, 05:38:42 PM
I think that will accept  trx450r nerfs on that spread.  But the pipe may not clear like you said.   What's the deal with chain guide on rear they send that with it. Or did you buy that yourself.  It's sexy
Title: WTF Lonestar - Manufacturing Mistake or Normal?
Post by: thesmith87250r on January 29, 2017, 10:38:33 PM
I would think the pipe would clear they have to know where the pipe fits
Title: WTF Lonestar - Manufacturing Mistake or Normal?
Post by: CTGT2005 on January 29, 2017, 11:09:35 PM
I'll have to test fit the pipe before going any further. Thought the 250r pipe hung down a little to the right of the frame rail.

I found some nice yfz450r nerfs with heel guards that look awesome and have a 22" spacing. Worst case they will work with a little tweaking.

Hontrx265r, have you seen a new LSR propeg frame with that spread recently?

Btw250, thats a chinese knock off "Acerbis" chain guide for. Pit bike I bought off Alibaba for 7$ and modified to fit on the 250r.
Title: WTF Lonestar - Manufacturing Mistake or Normal?
Post by: btw250 on January 29, 2017, 11:39:01 PM
Looks good. I looked it up same bolt pattern as banshee chain guides.   I had a set of pro armor nerfs for trx450 and I think they measured 23 24outside  tried mounting them on 86 frame and ended up hitting the pipe.
Title: WTF Lonestar - Manufacturing Mistake or Normal?
Post by: C-Leigh Racing on January 30, 2017, 10:05:07 AM
Looks like the front tube, may be in the location where a pair of Rath nerf bars would fit onto the frame, but the tube itself looks to long. The Rath nerfs wouldnt need but like 3" of tube to mount the front of the nerfs.
Just guessing by looking at the pic.
Neil
Title: WTF Lonestar - Manufacturing Mistake or Normal?
Post by: CTGT2005 on January 30, 2017, 02:24:17 PM
Ended up buying the LSR nerfs designed for this chassis. Credit to LSR for trying to work this out and helping me out on the nerfs. They are 21" center to center and have been told by LSR they are built to fit the frame where they put the front peg stud. Interesting... 21" back puts the center of the rear peg half an inch forward of the front bolt for the foot peg on my frame.

Stay tuned for updates!
Title: WTF Lonestar - Manufacturing Mistake or Normal?
Post by: CTGT2005 on January 30, 2017, 09:52:00 PM
Ok, scratch that... more smoke and mirrors and stalling tactics. Suddenly its 4-6 weeks out before they can ship my nerfs... what is this being made in china or something and has to travel around the world? 21 inches back doesn't get even within questioning distance on the rear placement. I wish they would just step up to the plate and admit they made a mistake and fix this without digging a deeper hole.

Note to anyone thinking of going with Lonestar products, buy through a middleman or someone with some leverage who can back you up if things dont work out. They take your money and give you lip service otherwise.
Title: WTF Lonestar - Manufacturing Mistake or Normal?
Post by: zcarlson12 on January 31, 2017, 11:43:43 AM
[MENTION=29]oldschoolr[/MENTION]

Check this thread out. It looks like his is right behind the frame down tube. Yours is in front of it. He also used Rath nerfs. http://trx250r.org/threads/3808-2014-Lonestar-build?highlight=oldschoolr
Title: WTF Lonestar - Manufacturing Mistake or Normal?
Post by: oldschoolr on January 31, 2017, 11:57:02 AM
I wasn't happy about that either, the pictures on the website shows the old design. Rath was able to do the bend the way i wanted kinda like the old ac nerfs.
Title: WTF Lonestar - Manufacturing Mistake or Normal?
Post by: CTGT2005 on January 31, 2017, 10:27:59 PM
[MENTION=29]oldschoolr[/MENTION] if you put your front peg stud 2" further forward  where mine is, does it look like it would clear the pipe? Haven't bolted my engine in, holding off till I figure it out with LSR. Rath said they'd make me custom bars, might just do that and eat the cost.
Title: WTF Lonestar - Manufacturing Mistake or Normal?
Post by: oldschoolr on January 31, 2017, 10:42:25 PM
Ok i just looked at your picture and yours is different than mine. Mine is 21.5in if i remember correctly but i didn't have any fitment issues  with the pipe because the pipe mounts above the nerfs.
(http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/29_8535_2017-04-18_1669.jpg)
(http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/29_8536_2017-04-18_6391.jpg)
Title: WTF Lonestar - Manufacturing Mistake or Normal?
Post by: CTGT2005 on January 31, 2017, 11:06:13 PM
That would make sense, mines on the complete other side of the frame rail. If you were to take a guess on the location of where my front stud is would it be in the way of the exhaust? Any pictures close up and level with the propeg stud? Thanks!
Title: WTF Lonestar - Manufacturing Mistake or Normal?
Post by: croat1 on January 31, 2017, 11:15:44 PM
[MENTION=1849]CTGT2005[/MENTION], check out the pics

http://trx250r.org/threads/6669-New-PIPE-!!!?highlight=fitment
Title: WTF Lonestar - Manufacturing Mistake or Normal?
Post by: CTGT2005 on February 01, 2017, 11:43:54 PM
Cant quite tell how low the pipe dips, but its going to be tight. No resolution offered from lonestar, they are saying the rear bolt hole for the footpegs is not the center of the propeg stud, thus the reason for my 23" measument being wrong and cant accept any responsibility. Bullshit.
Title: WTF Lonestar - Manufacturing Mistake or Normal?
Post by: croat1 on February 10, 2017, 11:04:07 PM
[MENTION=1849]CTGT2005[/MENTION], any updates?  this is my concern.....granted not the same frame or nerfs but a good example none the less:

(http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/24_8540_2017-04-18_6503.png)
Title: WTF Lonestar - Manufacturing Mistake or Normal?
Post by: CTGT2005 on February 11, 2017, 09:30:01 AM
I haven't been able to make time to test fit the engine to the frame but did mock up the exhaust just to see how it would fit. I'm running a trx5 pipe by esr and its not a very fat pipe by comparison to other big bore pipes. I think I might get lucky and have it fit with only a minor amount of rubbing. In the worst case scenario I will cut the pegs cleanly off and make a billet insert plug from aluminum to make it look finished. I could use that as mount point for the pegs or turn a custom adapter for nerfs on my lathe.

(http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/1849_8550_2017-04-18_3734.jpg)

The other news I have is that I found a very cheap set of pro-armor nerf bars (bottom picture) that are made for a yfz450r. They are stock 21.8" CTC and with a little stretching I was able to get them to 22.5". As long as there are no pipe fitment issues, these should mount up pretty nicely and look good as well. (top nerf is an Alba nerf at ~15" CTC for the 88-89 TRX250r)

(http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/1849_8552_2017-04-18_4736.jpg)

(http://forums.trx250r.org/vbulletin_imports/1849_8551_2017-04-18_7238.jpg)