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Workshop => Body and Controls => Topic started by: wilkin250r on May 20, 2018, 03:30:52 AM
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So I'm tired of deformed/melting plastics. I've got a couple projects I would like to add some heat shielding to.
So my first question is: What are you guys using for heat shielding?
My second question would be an extension of the first. If you haven't found a good solution, can we come up with a good solution? I've done a little bit of research on heat shielding tape, but it seems like any decent product I want to try is sold as rolls of tape, costing hundreds of dollars. I don't want to spend $500 on 45 feet of heat shielding tape if all I need is 1ft, only to throw $480 worth in the trash.
Maybe a group effort? Like, collectively we all buy a $500 roll of tape, and we cut/ship according to need? I'm totally willing to put forth the effort to divide according to need/contribution, but I don't like the idea of buying 45ft if I only need 1ft.
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try some of the basalt heat shield tape. there are some with an adhesive side.
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Look at Summit or JEGS. I've got heat wrap that I've used for years, with good results in both 1" and 2" x 25ft rolls
If you have room, make an aluminum/stainless plate with 3/8" risers and hose clamp it after wrapping the offending pipe with the wrap.
desertR
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I googled fiberglass heat wrap and came up with plenty of cheap options. Good luck
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this is what I used in an area where heat was an issue: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Heatshield-12-x-24-Lava-Mat-Thermal-Barrier-w-Adhesive-770001-1200F-/123111333394?hash=item1caa01de12
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So I'm tired of deformed/melting plastics. I've got a couple projects I would like to add some heat shielding to.
So my first question is: What are you guys using for heat shielding?
My second question would be an extension of the first. If you haven't found a good solution, can we come up with a good solution? I've done a little bit of research on heat shielding tape, but it seems like any decent product I want to try is sold as rolls of tape, costing hundreds of dollars. I don't want to spend $500 on 45 feet of heat shielding tape if all I need is 1ft, only to throw $480 worth in the trash.
Maybe a group effort? Like, collectively we all buy a $500 roll of tape, and we cut/ship according to need? I'm totally willing to put forth the effort to divide according to need/contribution, but I don't like the idea of buying 45ft if I only need 1ft.
Are you not using factory plastics? OEM has a support brace that goes right over where the silencer bend is that causes most melted plastics.
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A lot of people are posting exhaust wraps. Is that the solution most people are using? Heat wrap on the exhaust?
I was thinking more along the lines of an aluminum tape on the plastics, similar to the strategy used on OEM plastics on any other ATV.
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this is what I used in an area where heat was an issue: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Heatshield-12-x-24-Lava-Mat-Thermal-Barrier-w-Adhesive-770001-1200F-/123111333394?hash=item1caa01de12
Yeah, something like that. But it seems like the fiber-reinforced doesn't hold quite as long as a true solid aluminum. Have you had any problems with it peeling off?
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I used a heatshield from a 450r. I think fourwerx also makes a shield.
Dei makes a 1.5" diameter sheath to slide over the pipe, which I was going to try next. Just to clean up the area.
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I have some stuff on a couple sets of OEM plastic that were in a parts lot. It's foil backed mastic tape just like your looking for & it wasn't easy to remove. I have no idea how to post pics or I would but someone definitely makes it.
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And ideally I think I would want one solid piece, so I would need tape somewhere between 8" and a foot wide.
Have you ever priced aluminum tape a foot wide? They're out there, but only sold as a full roll, 180ft, and costs about $800. It works out to be only about $4 per foot, and if I need about a foot and half, I need $6 worth of tape. I ain't spending $800 if I only need $6 worth.
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"So my first question is: What are you guys using for heat shielding?
My second question would be an extension of the first. If you haven't found a good solution, can we come up with a good solution? I've done a little bit of research on heat shielding tape, but it seems like any decent product I want to try is sold as rolls of tape, costing hundreds of dollars. I don't want to spend $500 on 45 feet of heat shielding tape if all I need is 1ft, only to throw $480 worth in the trash."
You asked for solutions, and many have provided you with some, but the only solution you seem interested in is yours. IF you were doing a museum quality restoration, I could understand, but then why use something on a quad that will never run. I'll offer one more solution and then I'm done, using 3/16" large flange pop rivets, and some T-0 aluminum, make a heat shield the size you need. Space the aluminum off the plastic with some 3/16" washers, allowing for an air space between the layers and that will take care of it. Best of luck
desertR
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Dynamat also makes your sticky steel backed tape. Comes in 12"x12" squares. I believe 4 came in the pack I bought at best buy...
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The dynamat stuff, from what I can recall, was a really thin aluminum. In fact, almost anything I was able to find for automotive applications was fine for the inside of a firewall, floor, or door panel, but really wasn't capable of surviving the environment of your inner fenders.
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the material i mentioned earlier, works very well. i use it where a pipe is very close to the radiator. there was no peeling of the material at all.
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the material i mentioned earlier, works very well. i use it where a pipe is very close to the radiator. there was no peeling of the material at all.
And maybe my information is just skewed.
It seems like many of the quads I've seen with fiber-reinforced heat shields were peeling, but the solid aluminum was still in good shape. But these were also quads from the early 2000s. It's entirely possible the fiber-reinforced tape held strong for over 10 years, that would certainly be plenty enough lifespan for me.