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Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: liv2ride on August 07, 2013, 02:58:31 PM
Pics will be posted tonight when I get home from work.

I am selling a Polonda motor that I bought from a .net/R-central member (Lived in Oregon) roughly 10 years ago. I do not know much about the motor. I bought it with the intent of putting it in a flattrack R chassis I had laying around. I never did anything other than leave it in the crate and store it. The drain plug is stripped and will need to be repaired. Base gasket will need to be replaced. Stator and clutch side gaskets may need to be replaced. A little about the motor. Cases have been machined to accept big bore cylinder. '01 CR250 ignition and CDI(no coil). '87-89 Hot Rods long rod, Vforce reeds
I'd like to get $800 shipped for it.
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: Bigred on August 07, 2013, 07:10:23 PM
Complete motor or top end?  Ever run it?  Up for trades of any kind
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: Pumashine on August 07, 2013, 08:08:42 PM
Quote from: liv2ride;7653
I am selling a Polonda motor that I bought from a .net/R-central member (Lived in Oregon) roughly 10 years ago.  The only thing I know about it for sure is that the drain plug is stripped out.
Do you remember who you bought it from?
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: liv2ride on August 07, 2013, 08:38:44 PM
It's a complete motor. I have never ran it or even attempted to put into a frame.

I've tried and tried to remember who I bought it from. I just can't remember
(brain Cell Loss).
I think I bought it off of the R-central site before it moved over to the .net site. That was a loooooooong time ago. There were only a handful of us on there. Any old member names you remember from Oregon? Seems like I remember Eugene or Portland OR.
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: Pumashine on August 07, 2013, 08:50:28 PM
Yeah, lots of Polonda's from Oregon. Dave Moore made quite a few.
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: Bigred on August 07, 2013, 10:24:33 PM
O my I might have do lower my street bike price so I can get this
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: liv2ride on August 08, 2013, 06:48:02 PM
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Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: liv2ride on August 08, 2013, 07:06:31 PM
Lots of PM's on this motor. I'll try to respond to all. It's important to remember I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE MOTOR.
The things I know about it are as follows. It's a Polonda motor, It came from Oregon, the drain plug threads are stripped out, The CDI in the pics go with it.

Some of the things I don't know about it. What kind of igniton does it have? Does it have an ignition at all? Is there a piston in it? Does it have a clutch and basket in it? Is the crank any good? I can not honestly answer any of those questions. I bought it 10 years ago and stuck on a shelf. It's been there ever since.

Sorry to be so blunt. I just want to be honest. I'm not looking to rip anyone off and I don't want someone upset about something that may or may not be right with it. If someone is serious about buying it, I'll open it up to see what's in there. However if I were to find say a CR ignition in there, I doubt that I'd then sell the motor for $600. I'd either raise the price or stick a standard ignition in it. The way it sits as is, I'd sell it for $600 plus the ride. My wife reminded me today that I paid $900 for it. :dread:


Puma,
 The name Dave Moore sounds really familiar. I think that's who I bought it from. Maybe not though. I may just be remembering the name from the boards.
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: 250rLaeger1 on August 08, 2013, 08:00:08 PM
just from a quick look it does look like its a cr250r wiring harness and cdi.. and could be worth a few hundred just alone
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: Pumashine on August 08, 2013, 08:22:24 PM
Quote from: 250rLaeger1;7780
just from a quick look it does look like its a cr250r wiring harness and cdi.. and could be worth a few hundred just alone

Yes looks to be a good deal. Dave Moore did not weld the base plate to the cylinder though. Looks like the cylinder was not cut to fit the 250r bottom end. Looks as if they moved the studs on the bottom end which means you cannot convert it back to a Honda cylinder.
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: Bigred on August 08, 2013, 09:01:51 PM
Im gonna pass talked myself into running what I got cuz I know what I have
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: liv2ride on August 09, 2013, 08:03:39 PM
Adding a few details.
 There is a piston in it and it's not froze up. It looks like a CR ignition to me. It's a stock clutch. There was some rust in the water pump/impeller area.Impeller turns but feels tight to me. Buyer may want to replace water pump.





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Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: Pumashine on August 09, 2013, 08:17:55 PM
Quote from: liv2ride;7909
Adding a few details.
 There is a piston in it and it's not froze up. It looks like a CR ignition to me.
 CR ignition does not use a stock flywheel as in the picture. Don't know what you have but I doubt you get $500 for it.
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: liv2ride on August 09, 2013, 08:34:11 PM
Quote from: Pumashine;7912
CR ignition does not use a stock flywheel as in the picture. Don't know what you have but I doubt you get $500 for it.

i didn't realize that was stock. I thought stock was a little bigger. So all together you don't think it's worth $500? I guess it would hold more value if it could be converted back to a 250R top end. I appreciate the feedback.

If anyone is interested shoot me an offer.
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: Pumashine on August 09, 2013, 09:24:04 PM
So what it comes down to is it looks like a different year cr250r ignition you have then we are all used to. The main problem is you are not offering the coil which is essential to make it work.  You might be able to take the numbers off the CDI and find out what year it is. I apologize and wish you luck on the sale. If the bottom end has been converted for the Polaris cylinder then converting it back to a 250r top end is not possible. Please pull the cylinder and get pics of the bottom end stud location. Please post the numbers off the CDI sticker so members can see if the coil is available.
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: liv2ride on August 09, 2013, 09:27:27 PM
Quote from: Pumashine;7920
So what it comes down to is it looks like a different year cr250r ignition you have then we are all used to.  I apologize and wish you luck on the sale. If the bottom end has been converted for the Polaris cylinder then converting it back to a 250r top end is not possible. Please pull the cylinder and get pics of the bottom end stud location.


Sounds like a plan. I'll pull it this weekend and get some pics. Again, I appreciate the guidance and feedback.
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: Wes350x on August 09, 2013, 09:52:47 PM
I think you have a 2001 cr250 ignition, just missing the coil which you can buy for 25$ on eBay.

Looks same size as mine, and identical harness, just missing the coil.

(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn94/wes_g_964/Bikes/127dcab7a880b4874bf7aaebd2edf2c7_zpsd868dabd.jpg)

Good luck with the sale, you probably better still sticking to the 600$ range, especially since little is known about the engine.
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: GO OVRIT on August 09, 2013, 10:06:56 PM
My guess is that's an early 2000's cr125 cdi just going by the plug.
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: Pumashine on August 09, 2013, 10:27:38 PM
Quote from: Wes350x;7926
I think you have a 2001 cr250 ignition, just missing the coil which you can buy for 25$ on eBay.

Looks same size as mine, and identical harness, just missing the coil.

(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn94/wes_g_964/Bikes/127dcab7a880b4874bf7aaebd2edf2c7_zpsd868dabd.jpg)

Good luck with the sale, you probably better still sticking to the 600$ range, especially since little is known about the engine.

Wes is right, I was thinking $700. $450 for bottom end and $250 for ignition.
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: Wes350x on August 09, 2013, 10:27:47 PM
May be better off buying a coil, testing the ignition out and selling it separate...
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: atv fan 28 on August 09, 2013, 10:52:18 PM
Quote from: Pumashine;7912
CR ignition does not use a stock flywheel as in the picture. Don't know what you have but I doubt you get $500 for it.

Are you sure thats not a CR flywheel???

(http://i56.tinypic.com/5vaavn.jpg)
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: Pumashine on August 09, 2013, 10:57:37 PM
Quote from: atv fan 28;7938
Are you sure thats not a CR flywheel???
Yes Wayne, it is a CR flywheel. Just a little rusty. I was not thinking right. Your pic shows it is identical.(http://trx250r.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=1300&d=1376092588)
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: liv2ride on August 09, 2013, 11:00:04 PM
Info from CDI :
 
Denso
071000-1740
KZ3V

Googleator says it's an '01 CR250
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: sameltoe on August 09, 2013, 11:01:09 PM
How is it mounted? Doesn't look like an adapter plate is in their
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: liv2ride on August 09, 2013, 11:02:46 PM
It looks like there's an adapter plate in there, can't really see it in that pic though. I'll snap a few more pics from different angles tomorrow.
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: Polonda on August 09, 2013, 11:18:49 PM
If I can come up with some extra cash I may be interested in the cylinder if you want to separate.
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: liv2ride on August 10, 2013, 09:19:22 PM
Quote from: Polonda;7944
If I can come up with some extra cash I may be interested in the cylinder if you want to separate.


If I part it, you have dibs on the cylinder.
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: liv2ride on August 10, 2013, 09:26:47 PM
A few more details. Found Vforce reeds, Cylinder walls and piston look good. Little side to side movement in rod. Zero up and down movement. I'm not sure how they went about this build but I don't think the studs were moved. An ESR cylinder fits onto this bottom end. It will not seat all the way but that is because of the length of the studs. The holes do line up though. I'll put some pics up in just a bit.
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: liv2ride on August 10, 2013, 09:50:29 PM
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Dont know why the one pic got flipped.
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: Polonda on August 10, 2013, 09:59:52 PM
The holes in the cylinder have been welded up and then re drilled to match the Honda cylinder pattern.  Which means you can drop any Honda cylinder on it you want if it comes to that.  

Do you have any way to measure the stroke?  Curious if its stock stroke or not.
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: liv2ride on August 10, 2013, 10:09:49 PM
Quote from: Polonda;8020

Do you have any way to measure the stroke?  Curious if its stock stroke or not.


No. Unfortunately not. I wish I has the tools and knowledge for that. The top end is as far as I get/have gotten into one, with basic shop tools laying around.
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: Polonda on August 10, 2013, 10:52:55 PM
Any markings on the rod?
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: liv2ride on August 10, 2013, 11:12:39 PM
Quote from: Polonda;8028
Any markings on the rod?


Hot Rods
C.K. 109
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: Pumashine on August 10, 2013, 11:19:38 PM
I sold my motor setup to Shane for $750 without a clutch or ignition. I believe its a good deal and worth $900 but this economy sucks. You can bore those out to 85mm and make a 431 out of it with a 4mil crank.

I myself would buy it and throw the Polaris cylinder away and put on a Puma or Shinx on that bottom end

Stripped drain plug is an easy fix.
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: liv2ride on August 10, 2013, 11:24:20 PM
I'd like to get $800 shipped for it. I am open to any offers.

Im guessing shipping will be around $100
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: broken1 on August 10, 2013, 11:26:41 PM
Don't know if any of you know brent mcmillen but he made a few polanda engines also. He had his own shop on hwy 22 for a while. He had a brother named kevin & they used to build some pretty fast 250R's. They built a 350R for a friend of mine that ripped.
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: liv2ride on August 10, 2013, 11:29:49 PM
Do the cases have to be machined to accept the Polaris top end like they do for the big ESR's? There seemed to be plenty of clearance between the cases and the sleeve skirt on my 350 jug when I put it on there earlier. So I would think the cases have been machined.
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: Pumashine on August 11, 2013, 12:23:42 AM
Your cases have been machined. The Puma has to have the cases filled with epoxy and then machined. Any cylinder will work with your cases.
Title: Polonda Motor
Post by: Polonda on August 11, 2013, 08:22:47 AM
Quote from: Pumashine;8036
I sold my motor setup to Shane for $750 without a clutch or ignition. I believe its a good deal and worth $900 but this economy sucks. You can bore those out to 85mm and make a 431 out of it with a 4mil crank.

I myself would buy it and throw the Polaris cylinder away and put on a Puma or Shinx on that bottom end

Stripped drain plug is an easy fix.

Instead of throwing the Polaris cylinder away, ship it to me.  :D