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Title: Kicker shaft
Post by: croat1 on January 21, 2021, 09:18:09 AM
The early 85 atc250r engines had a shorter kicker shaft that caused the kicker to rub the clutch cover.  The change  to a longer shaft was changed sometime during production (1985).  Unfortunately I do not know at what exact serial number the change occurred.

Joe
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Post by: Braaaping247 on January 23, 2021, 04:43:48 AM
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Post by: Hawaiiysr on January 23, 2021, 05:46:16 PM
Great info! now im curious and want to see what I have. Honda gave .9 seams generous
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Post by: croat1 on January 25, 2021, 03:40:09 AM
Braaaping247, did you see this thread...

https://www.forums.trx250r.org/index.php/topic,6623.msg66494.html#msg66494

Joe
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Post by: croat1 on March 09, 2021, 12:21:54 AM
This is not what we want to happen.

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Post by: evaneyeball on March 09, 2021, 12:47:04 PM
Something else interesting is that somewhere between 86 and 89 they changed the cover also so that you don't have to run a collar on the shift shaft
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Post by: The norm on March 09, 2021, 03:26:06 PM
Something else interesting is that somewhere between 86 and 89 they changed the cover also so that you don't have to run a collar on the shift shaft

I believe that was in 1988. The changed the gear and cover.
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Post by: croat1 on March 09, 2021, 09:13:03 PM
“Early” 1985

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Post by: croat1 on March 09, 2021, 09:15:40 PM
“Updated” 1985 and newer

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Post by: Banshee330 on March 14, 2021, 08:43:32 PM
Are there any aftermarket company’s making the kick starter shaft?
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Post by: croat1 on March 14, 2021, 09:02:42 PM
Are there any aftermarket company’s making the kick starter shaft?


Not in oem length.  I believe a company called Direct Drive does or did make some longer ones to clear a lock up clutch cover.

Joe
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Post by: Banshee330 on March 16, 2021, 08:32:23 PM
I found a used kicker shaft on eBay today for 14 bucks. Hope it works, I got a few spline teeth missing. Also the gear shifter shaft have teeth missing too. Seller said splines were good. Also said it was only for 86-87 model.After reading this I’ll measure the shaft length, hope for the best.
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Post by: broken1 on March 17, 2021, 01:15:14 PM
I found a used kicker shaft on eBay today for 14 bucks. Hope it works, I got a few spline teeth missing. Also the gear shifter shaft have teeth missing too. Seller said splines were good. Also said it was only for 86-87 model.After reading this I’ll measure the shaft length, hope for the best.

Pretty sure the 85-86 atc & 86-89 trx all have the same shift shaft
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Post by: hickwheeler on April 05, 2021, 04:43:45 AM
Ya the early shafts don't clear a esr qc cover when I built the puma. I used take out parts on it. First time I went to kick it. It dug into the cover. Had to put a different style in
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Post by: The norm on April 05, 2021, 10:01:08 AM
Man Gene I bet that was a great feeling on a new build!
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Post by: croat1 on April 05, 2021, 11:15:35 AM
Man Gene I bet that was a great feeling on a new build!

I sold the take out components to Gene. Unfortunately I did not know of the “change in design” until after the fact. That’s when the investigation started.  I’ll take the blame on this one.  Luckily we have some good information now that this won’t happen again. 

Joe
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Post by: Hawaiiysr on April 05, 2021, 01:28:02 PM
aww man now im wondering what shaft i have in my 310 that im building. better be the long shaft because im going to be pissed if my QC cover gets scratched
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Post by: hickwheeler on April 05, 2021, 08:30:00 PM
You can get it to clear just barely. You have to pull out on the kicker when loose Then tighten. It's still very close. I chose to put a 88- 9 style in it instead.
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Post by: hickwheeler on April 05, 2021, 08:30:59 PM
Man Gene I bet that was a great feeling on a new build!

I sold the take out components to Gene. Unfortunately I did not know of the “change in design” until after the fact. That’s when the investigation started.  I’ll take the blame on this one.  Luckily we have some good information now that this won’t happen again. 

Joe

No blame to take Joe.