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Workshop => Suspension and Chassis => Topic started by: Texas30cal on September 22, 2021, 07:51:30 PM

Title: Broken 88 swingarm
Post by: Texas30cal on September 22, 2021, 07:51:30 PM
Another setback today, I started tearing into the swingarm and found a big problem. How common is this
Title: Re: Broken 88 swingarm
Post by: broken1 on September 22, 2021, 09:24:30 PM
When you loosened the cinch bolts the swingarm came apart like that? The break is so clean it looks like it was made that way
Title: Re: Broken 88 swingarm
Post by: Texas30cal on September 22, 2021, 09:32:34 PM
Yes sir, when I stripped the bike down I just pulled the swingarm and set it on the floor, never turned it over 🤦‍♂️, you can see where the break is dirty and the small clean areas where it broke last.
Title: Re: Broken 88 swingarm
Post by: 2ndmoto on September 22, 2021, 11:45:10 PM
I have never seen that failure before
Title: Re: Broken 88 swingarm
Post by: Texas30cal on September 23, 2021, 05:59:00 PM
Pics of the repair, I milled a bevel on it almost all the way through , still can reach a little more inside and going mill the outside nearly flush then put another pass on top. I know the swingarm was probably heat treated after welding and this won’t be but I’m not riding it like I’m 17 again either .
Title: Re: Broken 88 swingarm
Post by: The norm on September 23, 2021, 08:28:06 PM
Yes that swingarm was heat treated after all welding was complete. I have seen several aluminum swingarms welded after they break or crack. I have also seen them extended both cast and fabricated. I don't know what happened to all of them, but some of them broke. I watched as a young man almost got seriously hurt when his modified aluminum swingarm broke.  I would personally find a good used aftermarket swingarm. I am not just spouting off here. I have 20+ years working in fabrication and welding. Welding that swingarm is like playing Russian roulette!
Loren
Title: Re: Broken 88 swingarm
Post by: Texas30cal on September 24, 2021, 09:28:52 AM
I’ve got lots of years in machine shops myself and that’s the plan, I’m going to get it together and keep my eyes open for a nice replacement. If it had been the top side that was broken I wouldn’t have even attempted it.
Title: Re: Broken 88 swingarm
Post by: atvmxr on September 24, 2021, 11:26:40 AM
i have never seen that.  usually its up front around the swingarm bolt
Title: Re: Broken 88 swingarm
Post by: Texas30cal on September 25, 2021, 02:13:36 AM
I haven’t been around these for a long time but seen many others, I can’t imagine why this happened unless it was possibly a bad extrusion to start with.
Title: Re: Broken 88 swingarm
Post by: The norm on September 25, 2021, 12:31:24 PM
The aluminum used for swingarms is not flexible for the most part. Steel and chromoly have a elasticity that makes them superior for swingarms, A-arms, and frames.  So if you think about the lack of elasticity in the aluminum and you think about the aluminum bearing carrier being difficult to remove. My first thought is that someone down the line put a little too much leverage on the carrier clamping are trying to remove the carrier.
All the aluminum that I have had to bend in my career has either been an aluminum that is freely bendable or I have had to anneal it before bending. Then after it gets formed the aluminum gets sent out for heat treatment.
Loren