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Workshop => The Mad Scientist => Topic started by: croat1 on July 07, 2023, 04:00:52 PM
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New cylinder….
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anyone know where we can find more information about it other than the video?
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anyone know where we can find more information about it other than the video?
I’ll post more information as soon as it’s available.
Joe
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anyone know where we can find more information about it other than the video?
what do you want to know? DMR is one of my sponsors and I've been around 50% in the loop of what is going on. my understanding is at first Dave wants these to go to guys that actaully race. or at least that was the plan last I talked to Dave. which is fine with me as a race XC and MX; Im planning to run a toyger in my MX quad.
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Does "as cast" mean it's not a builders cylinder (i.e. not mean to be ported then plated) and already comes plated ready to run? Would be curious to see the port layouts on this vs smaller bore Sphynx's.
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I got the impression it’s ready to bolt on and race as cast. Same as the lynx.
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From DMR:
I need to make this post because of all the PM i have received over the last few weeks about the Toyger cylinder. First off this will never be a production cylinder meaning the cylinder will not be sold by its self. The complete DMR motor package which means every new part that is working correctly and has been tested for the bottom end part. The correct ignition, Pipe and carburetor. The motor will be assembled here and broke in and tested on the dyno before it ships. Why does it have to happen like this? Because i get sick of reading post from people that buy a cylinder and put it together in an incorrect manner using the wrong parts and worn out crap and all they can post about is how the cylinder is crap, so they are going to be built by the guy that designed them and knows how they should preform. 2nd I dont care if i dont sell 1 of these ever. All i care about is that everyone of them that is sold is the best most reliable racing motor combo ever built.....
Everyone will have a chance to see how the package proves it self over the 2024 season as Zach Racette Chad Smith and Jeremy Meier
will be running them in XC and MX events.
This post is going to rub alot of people the wrong way and really i dont care. It has taken me years of work to design , network , discover, test, break, make changes and test again to get to this point. When they do become available i will be building 12 a year and as i am 58 im not sure how many more years i will want to do this.
The toyger i will have at the 250R take over (mine) is a "as cast" cylinder. Most people incorrectly think that a great MX motor cant be a great drag motor.....Im sure there will be a lot of video on how it does.
Is the Toyger just all hype? Well "You cant hide your bull shit on the track" so i will let the motors speak for themselves.
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this customer base can be trying.
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Last from DMR
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When is this going to be made available on the davemooreracing.com website ?
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This is a great offering
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When is this going to be made available on the davemooreracing.com website ?
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This is a great offering
John, if you read above Dave states that it will never be a production cylinder. Stating 12 will be available all from Dave. But with Dave taking 2024 off chances are slim to none to get a cylinder. I hope things change and these become available to general public.
Joe
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Toyger exhaust
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Latest cylinder availability news from Mr. Moore……..
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that center section looks really big. nice looking pipe.
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I moved this question over from a different thread as it fits this discussion.
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yes, they rip! raced against them last saturday. Im hopefully getting one in a few months
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what is the update about actually being able to buy on of these cylinders?
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what is the update about actually being able to buy on of these cylinders?
My understanding is 2025.
Joe
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Sharing about availability but it doesn’t look like you’ll be able to buy the cylinder by itself. Hopefully that changes by the time they are released to the general public.
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From the sounds of it now the cylinder will be available to the general public.
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I’m still a little confused if a person will be able to buy this cylinder and build it yourself….
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I think DMR has to build it and it has to have all the parts listed. Probably be $6-7k
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His big me-little you bdt attitude is a huge turnoff lol. I’ll definitely keep my builds going to Pete! A new innovative cylinder for our community is a welcome thing. It’s too bad you have to drink the koolaid or you don’t get one.
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Agree 100%. “It’s the best cylinder ever, but you can’t have it!”
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From davemooreracing.com
Parts Needed
TOYGER Top End kit $1995 (DMR Only)
Billet Bottomend Kit $2304
(Includes Center cases, Clutch cover, Stator cover, Water pump cover, Water pump, Kick starter shaft)
DMR will NOT use any other cases or covers.
38mm Air striker (new or used in good shape) DMR machining for carb $80
HotRods long rod crank(new) $355.26
Zeeltronic ignition complete ( Weston Rainwater drwperformanceatv.com) $595
Billet clutch basket(new) (from hinsonracing.com) $284.99
Bearings, Seals, Gaskets $195 DMR only
Bolts, Studs, Dowl pins $62 DMR only
SMR pipe (Scott Moser Racing) estimate- $600
Case saver (Weston Rainwater DRW) $83.99
All internal parts(gears, Shafts, spacers, clips, shift drum, forks, fork shafts, Counter balancer, crank gears, Kick stater gear and all other parts. All parts will be inspected)
Steel kick starter
Labor including (assembly, break in, dyno tune) $620
Return Shipping TBD
So.....this gives a grand total of this complete package of: $7175.24 ......;) That's quite the package.