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Projects / Re: My rescued 86 TRX250R build

« on: November 17, 2017, 08:44:25 AM »

Sweet build !!what color powder did you use?it looks to be a close match.the last Honda frame I had done has more of and orange to it like the early 80's CR and I'm looking for more of a close match to Oem?does anyone have any recommendations on a close match.Thank you.

The powder I used was intentionally NOT a match to OEM. My garage lighting and the glossiness of the powder is deceiving. Its actually quite a bit darker and extremely
glossy compared to the OEM red. Actually, if you look at the blaster I have in the background, its an almost identical shade to the red frame on it just a lot more glossy.

It looks like someone above me has found a close OEM-like powder. But if anyone cares what powder I used (once again, it was intentionally darker than OEM) it is prismatic powders toreador red with a lollipop red top coat.

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Projects / Re: My rescued 86 TRX250R build

« on: November 17, 2017, 08:39:44 AM »

Do those heel guards on the nerfs interfere with the rear fenders?

I haven't had the rear fenders on yet with the nerfs. Hopefully I will soon though. I'll let you know if I remember

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Projects / Re: My rescued 86 TRX250R build

« on: November 16, 2017, 12:07:23 PM »

I guess I've forgot to update this thread. So for anyone who wants to see the progress I've made in the past months here it is.

Just about everything is assembled now. I only have a few things left to do such as clean up and mount the exhaust, install the wiring harness, install the shocks, and install the plastics. I will also probably put some beadlocks with new tires on as well but maybe not right away. Everything is starting to come along nicely. I can't wait to get this thing fired up and ride it. It is by far my best build yet.

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Projects / Re: My rescued 86 TRX250R build

« on: September 08, 2017, 04:09:13 PM »

looking good.  I hope your engine is reliable.  I have heard reliability issues with BDT.

keep us updated.

John

I've seen a good chunk of people hating on BDT but I won't hold that against him because from what I've seen so far, he's doing excellent with my motor. He has taken longer than planned to build it but it seems that is because he is being very detailed with the motor. He sends me pictures throughout the process. So far, I've seen my cracked and messed up cases repaired and looking brand new with excellent powder coating. He's even made sure to take the cases once and one of the covers as well, back to powder coat because they had small flaws. Sent me pics and I could barely tell there was anything wrong. That's showing me that he's not letting even the smallest flaws slide on my build. That's the kind of detail I'm looking for though because so far I think my build is looking like showroom quality. But that's just my opinion. I'll attach the latest photo I got.

I had the factory 43 nerfs and front bumper on but removed them to work on the a-arms easier. Still gotta finish the front end but its starting to come along. I don't know if some of you saw but Maier just redesigned their race cut front fenders for our quads and I got in on the first batch they made. They look real good in my opinion.

Well, its not letting me attach the photo. I'll try again another time.

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Suspension and Chassis / Re: Questions about long travel a-arms

« on: September 08, 2017, 03:48:39 PM »

did you go with LT?

Yes I did. I have been really busy lately though so I don't have them installed fully yet. If I can remember, I will post pics when they are done.

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Projects / Re: My rescued 86 TRX250R build

« on: August 04, 2017, 09:02:54 AM »

Yes actually! I forgot to update this thread.

Last you guys saw, I was still tearing it down. Tear down was a B**** but I got it done. Had some delays in powder coating at work but that got done as well with outstanding results. Our powder coating guy at work does a fantastic job.

I have only made slow progress on the build back up as I'm still waiting on a good amount of the parts to get made (motor work, arms, shocks, nerf bars, bumpers, etc). I do have the swingarm and the rest of the rear end complete (minus the shock and rear brakes) with powder coating on everything like the swingarm and durablue axle, a nice new LSR billet carrier, tusk rotor, and new sprocket.

I have now started to work on the front of the quad as the JD Performance MGC arms should be in soon. I received my LSR steering stem and installed that with the new bearings. I'll be looking to mount the handlebars and the precision shock and vibe bar mounts next (ASV clutch and brake levers should be in soon as well).

Not mounted on the quad but still powder coated and rebuilt is the front brake calipers and master cylinder. I pressed a new sight glass into the front master cylinder but will be rebuilding the plunger in the next day or so. I haven't done the rear brakes and master yet because I already had a bunch of parts sitting on my workbench so I didn't want to start those until my front brakes were done and ready. I'll get to the rear brake in a bit.

But that is how she sits now. I'll post all the photo progress. Hope you like it. Once again, don't mind my messy garage. Gotta clean it up once I get a few more of these parts back on the R.

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Suspension and Chassis / Re: Questions about long travel a-arms

« on: August 04, 2017, 08:36:39 AM »

Just so that I keep the thread updated, I went ahead and spent the each money on the JD Performance MGC arms. The are due to arrive soon. I'll try to give an update on them but it will be a while until my build is ready to ride.

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Projects / Re: My rescued 86 TRX250R build

« on: June 26, 2017, 11:10:09 AM »

Just a little more progress on the R tear down. The spare blaster I'm rebuilding so I can sell is taking up most of my time but still put in about an hour on the R. Down to pretty much just the brake lines, arms, and swing arm until the frame is ready. I'll work on the swing arm and the axle while the frame is getting done. Don't mind my messy garage. It's only that way because I gotta make room until I can get some stuff sold. Soon, the R will be moved to my primary project spot by the workbench and toolbox.

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Projects / Re: My rescued 86 TRX250R build

« on: June 23, 2017, 10:07:58 PM »

Good to see your reviving the R. It's really sad how people really abuse these quads and trash them. For the suspension arms, if you want quality, JD would be the way to go. I have Alba aarms on my banshee, they are decent but lack quality I'd get with higher end companies.

I think I've decided against the albas. Now its between the ASR and JD. Its a matter of are the JD worth spending that much more for.

Another good option is Tyler at Metaltech or Fireball or Stellar

Don't give me more options. It's already hard enough to decide between those two lol

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Projects / Re: My rescued 86 TRX250R build

« on: June 23, 2017, 04:19:38 PM »

Good to see your reviving the R. It's really sad how people really abuse these quads and trash them. For the suspension arms, if you want quality, JD would be the way to go. I have Alba aarms on my banshee, they are decent but lack quality I'd get with higher end companies.

I think I've decided against the albas. Now its between the ASR and JD. Its a matter of are the JD worth spending that much more for.

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Projects / Re: My rescued 86 TRX250R build

« on: June 23, 2017, 12:26:12 PM »

I only tinkered with a few little things on it here and there when I got it. After a year since I last messed with it, I finally started working on the R again. Not too much physical progress yet but a lot of thinking and planning got done recently.

After finding problem after problem with the quad and the condition it is in, the previous owner(s) must not have cared too much to keep it reliable and in good shape. Because of this, I decided its best to just tear it all down and have the motor rebuilt even though it technically runs just not the greatest.

I took the motor out and the attached pictures is how it sits now in my messy garage.

The motor has been shipped out to BDT to have work done. When the motor arrived, Carlos convinced me to go big with a 363 build. It wasn't much more money than just a rebuild and the work I wanted and he said he sees time and time again, people sending motors back cuz they want a bigger build. Since I know I will probably be one of those guys too, I decided why not spend a little more money now and save more in the long run by having him go ahead and build the big bore now. He's also going to powder the cases and covers black and leave the cylinder and head glass beaded so it looks bare aluminum. It will look better in my opinion with the color scheme I'm going for. So that's whats in the works now. I'll try to keep you guys posted when it comes back in about 4-6 weeks.

Now I'm just planning on what else I want to do with it until the motor gets done. I've already purchased the big bore pipe for it and a 38mm air stryker for it. Also, I went ahead and pulled the trigger on a great deal on a +1/+4 axle. I got my electrical components on the way to hopefully fix the kickback issue the quad had before I tore it down.

I've already talked to my suspension guy to figure out what to do with the shocks. He said he can build me whatever to match the arms I buy so I just need to figure out what arms I want and he will build the shocks for them. So I'm currently doing some research so I can decide on what long travels I want. ASR builds some long travels at a decent price. Alba makes some long travels at an even lower price for the 400ex which apparently fit 250Rs too as long as you put spacers in where it bolts to the frame. But everyone I've talked to really recommend the JD performance arms but they are a good $300 more than the ASRs and even more than the Albas. It's a tough decision and one I'm still debating.

This weekend I plan on trying to make more progress toward stripping the rest down to bare frame so I can get going on having the frame gusseted and then powder coat afterwards. I'm going to powder coat the frame a deep red like my 04 blaster frame. I really like that color and the powder comes out REALLY good and super glossy. I'll probably do just the frame red and the swing arm, axle, and arms black. I have black wheels to go with it. I'm also thinking about the black carbon fiber looking race cut fenders for it. I really think the black/silver looking plastics matched with a red frame and black arms and stuff will really look good. It's a way to keep the silver/black theme but still have a subtle but eye catching red frame.

Anyways, that's what has been going on the past couple weeks with my R. This next month can't go by fast enough! I really want my motor back so I can ride this thing!

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Projects / My rescued 86 TRX250R build

« on: June 23, 2017, 12:21:13 PM »

The reason for the "rescued" part of the title on this build thread is because this poor R has not been treated well so I feel like its when you rescue a dog from an animal shelter.

First off this is an 86 TRX250R. I've always been a 2 stroke fan and rode my dad's blaster since I was tall enough to reach the handlebars and shifter. Since then I've always been about 2 strokes and a few years ago, got my own blaster to build faster than my dad's. It turned out real good and I love the 240 big bore with a +3 stroke crank but I've always dreamed of having a 250R. I feel like the 250R is every 2 stroke fan's dream quad if you like a well rounded quad. Banshees have a big fan base but I personally like the 250R for its history of racing and its well roundedness.

Well I finally found one at a great price because it wasn't in great condition which is what I wanted because I like rebuilding them and making them to my riding and liking. The plastics are really rough and its got some goofy paint scheme going on. The guy I got it from didn't know much about it either and obviously didn't care to much to keep it in good shape. It had a huge crack in the exhaust and the carb bowl was cracked so bad that when I unscrewed it, it shattered in my hand. The clip on the needle was even bent and straddling about 3 notches on the needle. Chain also had zero sliders, guides, or rollers. It also had an aftermarket CDI which I was told and believe is the reason it had the ankle breaking kick back when trying to start. The swing arm bolt was missing the nut. The air filter was filthy. It even only had one grip on the handle bars.

Here's some pictures of it and last one sitting next to my blaster I mentioned above.

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Suspension and Chassis / Re: Questions about long travel a-arms

« on: June 21, 2017, 05:27:06 PM »

The upper arm on ex's are shorter relative to than R arms. It is likely within the adjustment range of the upper balljoint. I've never had asr arms, though I don't care for heim joints for attaching lower arms to the frame because I ride in muddy conditions often. If I were shopping I would get JDPerformance. Just remember shock length, brake line length, and a arms must all work as a package.

So I take it the 250r spindle can accept ball joints other than heim joints since you are saying you don't run heim joints?

I did some more digging and found that some people have run the alba 400ex long travel on Rs with success and they are even cheaper than the ASR long travels. I looked at the JD arms and they look good and I've heard great things but my build is starting to add up so I'm considering cheaper options where I can. The motor and shocks are the 2 most important things in my eyes and I'm going top of the line products in those 2 areas. So the alba 400ex arms seem to be where I'm starting to lean to save a few hundred dollars.

As for making everything work as one, my suspension guy has told me that he will make whatever I need as long as I get or measure the eye to eye length and stroke length. So I have that covered because he will build the shocks around whatever I need. And alba offers matching brake line lengths optional with the purchase of the arms.

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Suspension and Chassis / Questions about long travel a-arms

« on: June 21, 2017, 09:08:15 AM »

With the build I'm doing, I think I have my suspension figured out and now I just need to figure out what long travel arms I want.

Does anyone have opinions on the American star racing (ASR) long travels? They are considerably cheaper than most which is why I would like to know.

I also might have the opportunity to get some fairly good condition 400ex long travels as well and I'm a little confused as to how the 400ex suspension works. I read that they will work but require small spacers where they mount to the frame due to them being thinner than the 250R's. The thing I'm confused about is, does all the other components toward the wheel side (spindles, hubs, brakes, etc) compatible? No one really seems to clarify if they are just running full 400ex front ends or if they are using just the arms and spacers and then 250R components like the spindles, hubs, and brakes. Could someone tell me if all I need is my 250R stuff and 400ex arms and spacers or do I need a full 400ex front end?

If its too much work, I'll just get the ASR long travels or if those are shit, then I'll try to find some other brand 250R long travels.

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Projects / My little rescue (86 TRX250R)

« on: June 01, 2016, 12:48:20 PM »

Just for a little background, I grew up riding my dad's blaster since I was about 10 and since have fallen in love with 2 strokes. I now own an 04 Blaster with a 240 BB and +3 crank. It's pretty mean but I've always wanted a 250R. Found one not too far away for a decent price and decided to finally start my dream build. Since I do have a fully functional and fun to ride blaster, this will be a slow build that I do in my spare time. I picked up this 86 TRX250R. It was clear that this guy didn't know much about the quad or much about quads in general. He told me that the guy he bought it from had a huge list of thing he did to it and he couldn't remember it all but this R to me doesn't look far from stock other than the powder coating and the shitty plastics. Here is how I got it:

Here it is sitting next to my blaster
As you can see it has some strange color scheme going. Luckily I have powder coating at my work so I will powder the blue stuff red again. I don't like the red engine either. Planning on making it black not sure how I'm going to do that though. The obvious things that are wrong with it are the color, had a nice crack in the bill's pipe it has, no swingarm nut, had a twist throttle (not a fan), the plastics are pretty bad shape (stains and cracks all over), no kill switch, parking brake was removed but no parking brake block off, and filter looked nasty. I started to fix these problems by giving it a nut on the swingarm bolt, had welders at work weld the pipe crack, got the thumb throttle back on with a new cable as well, ordered a factory looking kill/light switch, got a parking brake block off, and new uni filter.

When installing the cable for the thumb throttle, I took the carb off. While inspecting it, I found that the bowl was cracked right by one of the bolts that holds it on. Took the bowl off to find the piece had fallen off and was most likely caused because it had two gaskets stacked on top of each other. I dug a little deeper to find it had a 152 main and 48 pilot. That main was probably too lean for the pipe and filter (if the filter is clean). Also found that the clip on the needle had be bent really bad and was between about 3 different positions. I debated a new carb since I know I want to make this thing a monster in the future but decided to keep it the way it is (only fixing its flaws) for now until I get use to it.

So at the moment, I'm waiting on a new bowl, some jets, and a rebuild kit to come in so I can fix the carb and get this thing going. I also have some wheel bearings that I need to install (pretty sure that is what is causing the play in the front wheels). I'll also soon think about what I want to do to it cosmetically. Thinking about doing a complete frame tear down and having the welders at work help me gusset the frame and then I can powder it red.