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The Mad Scientist / Re: Billet Cases - Case Saver Alternative
« on: February 07, 2026, 10:47:45 AM »
I machined a prototype and was happy with the fitment.  We will start on a run of 6061 aluminum ones next week.
These will fit a 15 tooth sprocket if anyone is concerned.  Thanks!

A case saver looses it's effectiveness as the distance increases between the chain on the sprocket and the case saver.  A different case saver should be made for each tooth count on the countershaft sprocket!

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The Mad Scientist / Re: DMR float bowl
« on: November 25, 2025, 07:58:43 PM »
-Where are the holes located in the float bowl that feed the pilot and main jets their fuel?

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Lounge / Re: ESR closed?
« on: July 03, 2025, 02:17:42 PM »
This was posted on ESR's Website Oct.10-2024

But why would the EPA restrict the making of CORES ? Isn't it just foam ? or Sand with glue ? What is the world coming to ????


Foundry castings still use sand for molds and cores but they mix Sodium Silicate  and Calcium Carbonate into the sand as a binding agent.  CO2 gas is injected into the sand and it hardens the sand making the cores much more durable and less likley to erode or wash out when molten metal is poured into the mold.

Liberal states along the west coast and many other areas of our country are banning this process or requiring foundries to install expensive "scrubbers" to capture the CO2 that their scientist say is destroying our planet.  CO2 is used by plants to live.  Plants give off oxygen that is required for animals and humans to live.  Their scientist have degrees in political science, not degrees in physics and the engineering sciences that actually understand how important CO2 is to the life cycle of our planet.  Our planet is self healing and is constantly readjusting processes to keep everything inbalance. 

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Engine and Bottom End / Re: Big bore pipe?
« on: May 02, 2025, 08:14:13 PM »
My 50 plus years of testing and design work on a wide variety of different types of two stoke engines has shown me the stinger size depends primarily upon the power the engine makes not the actual displacement, how many seconds the throttle is held wide open without closing the throttle for a second or two, the length of the stinger, how many degrees of bend there are in the stinger, the type of bender used when the stinger needs a bend, how well the silencer flows, and how well the cylinder's thermal exchange is into the coolant that flow through the cylinder and head are the other variables that have a large influence on stinger dimensions.

One of the primary design criteria of the majority of OEM pistons is to provide an unobstructed path for heat to flow from the center of the piston to the rings and skirts.  My testing, observations and conclusions on the pistons that we use and or is supplied with the majority of the big bore kits has been very disappointing for me.  It has been obvious to me the the primary design criteria for our big bore pistons was to make the piston as light as possible in an attempt to make it's weight as close as possible to that of a 250 piston.  I believe the weight reduction programs have led to piston designs that are thermally inferior to the designs used by Honda and other engine manufacturers.

The OEM pistons with proper stinger restriction, proper ignition timing, with piston clearances adjusted for the various gasoline engine packages and jetted for best torque and power will not usually have any heat related piston problems.  When dyno testing I can incrementally continue to lean the jetting down until the power starts to drop off, without heat related piston crown problems on OEM pistons when making long dyno runs.

I cannot usually optimize the big bore gasoline engines for best power that have forged pistons that have compromised thermal designs.  330 big bore Hondas that make around 70 hp on my dyno that are tuned for best power and best torque, the piston crowns will sag in the middle of the crown or half way between the middle of the crown and the exhaust port side of the piston when subjected to 10 to 15 second long dyno runs or 10 to 15 second long runs up some of the long sand hills.  The big bore pistons will survive all day long on the dyno if the dyno runs are a couple of seconds or less long runs.  The pistons will usually survive 100 yard sand drag races when tuned for best power and torque.

The problem is:
The majority of the big bore engines have to be de-tuned for Cross country, Desert Racing or the 10 to 15 second long hard pulls up Sand Mountain or Oldsmobile Hill at Glamis to make the pistons survive.  Short dyno run times do not usually simulate what your engine experiences on most racing and recreational riding applications.  Piston designs cannot be accurately tested for heat related design problems when the dyno runs are too short. 

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Engine and Bottom End / Re: trash or treasure ?
« on: April 10, 2025, 09:25:27 PM »
Sand the area with a 150 to 200 grit cartridge roll until you can't see the blemish/crack.  Put the case into the oven and heat the case up to about 200 deg. F.  If there is a crack, oil in the crack will expand and the crack will become visible.

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For Sale - Craiglsist 250R's / Re: NOS fenders
« on: October 25, 2024, 06:55:45 PM »
My cell phone is also a flip phone and seldom answer the business phone while I am out working in the shop.  My back log of work is 4 to 6 months.

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For Sale - Craiglsist 250R's / Re: NOS fenders
« on: October 24, 2024, 09:02:35 PM »
When Face Book was being created, one of the original programmers said his first assignment was to make Face book addictive.  Face Book wanted to get away from the typical Forums, where things were organized and it was easy to find or post about a particular topic.  If you were reading or posting something in the morning and had to stop and go to work, you could easily continue where you left off when you got home from work.  Their solution to making Face Book addictive was to disorganize the original type forums and put all the post one after another to form a long single column of post so that you had to be online all day long to follow a thread.

By increasing user screen time, the user is exposed to more streaming adds and as user time increases Face Book collects more money from their advertisers.

The average cell phone user in the USA looks at or uses their phone over 90 times per day.

Highway fatalities due to distracted driving while using a smartphones has surpassed deaths due to alcohol and or drug impairment while driving.

American employees are stealing over 300 billion dollars each year from their employers in the form of time theft due to personal time they spent on their phones and or online activities while working.  The above number does not include the cost to employers or insurance companies for errors made due to the interruptions in concentration after looking at social media, text or personal phone calls taken while at work.

Employee phones stay in their car or in my office while they are on the clock.  This is the main reason I have not had any employees the last 3 years.  American employers could really stimulate the economy and improve the quality of their products if they would make some rules for personal use of technology while at work or just enforce the rules the company already has in place. 

America has a cell addiction!

Sorry for the rant
Jerry Hall

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Engine and Bottom End / Re: Crank Bearings Too Small???
« on: June 08, 2024, 02:09:52 AM »
the 2RS on those bearings means 2 rubber seals.....they removed them.....and I bet they are not a C3 clearance fit - Which all crank bearings must be. Like Jason stated.....I'd source out some KOYO 63/28C3 bearings and do it right.

Honda Part# 91008-KAE-000 or 91008-KAE-731 <- these are the 8 ball version (stronger bearing)

:)





All two stroke crankshaft main bearings are not C3 clearance.  C3 clearance is the most common bearing used in electric motors but not in two stroke engines.   When the engine manufactures have Koyo or any other  bearing manufacture make a large production run of bearings, the engine manufacturer that will be using the bearings will usually request the clearance not be printed on the bearing.  Some engine manufacturers use different interference fits on the OD and ID of the bearing.  The engineers seldom request clearances tighter than C3 but often request clearances looser than C4 or C5.

There are a lot of general specifications for bearings that are intended to be sold over the counter for small projects or to engineers that are building and testing proto types.  The markings on these bearings are accurate and are what they are said to be.  If there are clearance, finish, and tolerance, markings on the bearings that were installed when the engines were produced, they are usually not accurate.  The inner and outer races for all ball bearing of the same OD and ID, are the same.  The internal bearing clearance is determined by the size of the balls.

You are probably asking why the markings for clearance on the OEM bearings in a new engine or the bearing sold through the engine manufacturer dealer network, may not be accurate?  Bearing manufacturers often produce large runs of C3 bearings since this is the most common clearance, so they mark the outer race of the bearing C3.  Then one of the two stroke engine manufacturers calls a bearing manufacturers and needs a rush order of 10,000 bearings that need a C4.5 clearance.  The bearing manufacturer tells the engine manufacturer that we have 100,000 inner and outer races already made but they have the C3 label and it will be two months until we can make your bearings without clearance marking.  The engine manufacturer does not care what is printed on the bearing as long as it has the balls installed that gives the bearing the C4.5 clearance, like testing has indicated is absolutely necessary.  The engine manufacturer through it's dealer network, is supplying the customer with a  bearing that has all of the dimensions that was supplied when the engine was new, even though the clearance marked on the OEM bearing was wrong. 

If you buy your parts from Honda or any other OEM part, it will have the correct dimensions that engineers found to be optimal through extensive testing.  Guys that are attempting to save money by taking their old bearing to a local bearing supplier or ordering bearings online using the numbers that were on their OEM bearing will often experience problems because the new cheaper bearing does not have the correct dimensions for the application.

The moral of the story:  Buy OEM parts unless you have the experience and tools to accurately measure and determine what clearance a new OEM Honda bearing had.  Most often it was not a standard mass produced C3,C4 or C5 bearing.  If the OEM bearing had a C4.5 clearance, it is going to cost you a lot more than having custom bearings made to Honda's specifications than paying retail cost at a Honda dealer.

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Lounge / Re: Sudco
« on: May 23, 2024, 07:08:05 PM »
So when it says the are looking for an aftermarket supplier that means Keihin is looking for someone else to make the carbs or they are looking for another Sudco type company?

Keihin is looking for a company to be a distributor for the USA like Sudco.  I have been doing business with Sudco since around 1975.  It is a shame that the markets have changed and the business has been on a gradual decline the last 20 years or so, when the son of the originator of Sudco started running the business.

Keihin makes carbs and tuning parts for the OEMs.  Keihin also make generic carbs and tuning parts for the aftermarket.  OEM carbs and tuning parts have to be purchased from a Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki.....etc.... dealer.  Sudco sells aftermarket carbs which often share the same raw carb castings, but the fuel and air circuits are often drilled different sizes and sometime are not in the same locations.  Keihin will not sell OEM needles, needle jets, and other parts that were engineered and tested by the motorcycle manufacturers for a specific year, make, and model.


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Pics and Vids / Re: Nice score (engines)
« on: April 08, 2024, 08:31:46 PM »
I bought about 10 complete 1985 ATC 250R (Black engines) from Apache Honda located here in Phoenix Arizona over approximately a years time.  They did not have carburetors, but they were fully assembled  but had the plugs cut off on the wires that came from the stator.  I think that I gave about $1200 to $1500 each.

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Pics and Vids / Re: ProDesign
« on: March 14, 2024, 08:58:21 PM »
Pro Design “king of the malt shop Commandos” initials T.B



Is this the same company that made the billet heads with insert type combustion chambers?

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ATC250R / Re: Trikers! Post up pics of your 3-wheeled death machines!
« on: February 16, 2024, 07:04:52 PM »
Does the Power Apt update on cast smart carbs signify a revolutionary breakthrough in fuel efficiency and performance for off-road vehicles, or is it just another overhyped marketing ploy?
 
My car blog:

My experience has been....another grandchild of the Lakewood injector, Lectron, Blue Magnum, EI Carb and now the Smart Carb all from the same gene pool.

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Searching YouTube I found this piston being used in a Lynx cylinder.  Anyone having this done?


Ah yes the welded piston :)

Here’s the link to the video where this piston was seen. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ev2tPfzIncE

I watched the above video and a few other of his videos:(  It is sad to see a guy that has a lot of followers/viewers, at this level of experience making videos about motor building.  I hope his viewers are watching his videos for comedy and the bling factor and not to learn new mechanical skills that they can use on their own engines and quads. 

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The above paper agrees with my experiences and some of my customers experiences we had with high temperature power coatings on aluminum parts over 30 years ago.  I published my findings on s few other forums 10 to 15 years ago.  After a few weeks many of the enthusiast on those forums talked to their local powder coating shops and the P C shops said I did not know what I was talking about.  I then talked to a hand full of powder coating shops in the Phoenix Arizona area about the curing time and temperatures they used on their powders and the answers varied from 450 deg F for 15 minutes to 350 deg overnight.  They also said that powder coating will not change the temper or age hardening of the aluminum.

A powder coating shop owner, a quarter mile down the street from my shop, was put in the hospital by two bikers.  I bought his fork lift when he closed his shop a few months after the hospital incident.  The P C shop owner said that the bikers claimed they started blowing head gaskets and the valve seats would not stay pressed in the head.  The bikers claimed their heads were ruined when they were powder coated and wanted the shop owner to buy them new heads.   The PC shop owner told them that the 400 deg curing temp would not hurt their aluminum heads and he was not going to buy them new heads.  Then the P C shop owner woke up in the hospital. 

When I was paying him for the fork lift he ask me what I thought about the bikers claims.  I told him I stopped powder coating aluminum aluminum engine parts over 25 years ago because the curing process usually softened the aluminum and reduced the aluminum's ability to get rid of heat through two of the three forms objects can transfer heat to the atmosphere.  The three forms objects can transfer heat are: conduction, convection and radiation.  Any paint is an insulator and powder coating is an insulator on steroids which drastically reduces heat loss through convection and radiation.  Air cooled engines are cooled primarily by convective heat transfer as air travels between the fins and a small amount of radiation off of the non finned areas.  Polishing or chroming any surface reduces the amount of radiated heat loss.  smooth surfaces reduce convective heat loss.  This is another example I have observed or personally experienced where the powder coating curing process overaged the aluminum making it soft promoting head gasket sealing problems, relaxed the press fit on the valve seats and the reduced the convective heat loss through the fins, and elevated the head temperature to the point thermal expansion of the aluminum further reducing the press fit on the valves seats or valve guides to the point they would no longer stay in position.

Have you ever seen a polished, powder coated, anodized or chromed plated engine, head or exhaust system on a "factory works bike"?  I have not and I have worked on a lot of them.  There are a lot of square inches of external surface area on engine cases and cylinders of liquid cooled engines that can be used to radiate heat and transfer heat to the atmosphere by convection as air flows over these areas.  Using the proper surface preparation on ALL of these external engine surfaces reduces the amount of heat the radiator has to get rid of.  I see a lot of customers fall victim to the inline aluminum finned cooling gadgets that produce turbulence and restriction inside any coolant line where they are installed.  Anodizing also reduces radiated heat loss.  One of the basic laws of physics says that metals that conduct heat well conduct electricity well.  Metals that do not conduct heat well do not conduct electricity well.  Check an anodized surface with an ohm meter and see what you get. 

I am attempting to educate the guys that are racers where performance is the primary goal.  I am attempting to educate the guys who want to have a beautiful bike and what some of the bling may be costing them in performance and longevity.  The laws of physics does not allow a true race bike and a museum queen to exist in one package!



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Engine and Bottom End / Re: Melting ground straps. Still!
« on: January 31, 2023, 12:50:11 AM »
Does the top of your piston or head show damage from the missing ground strap?

Does your spark plug ever get loose?
 
Do you have the CR 125 or the CR 250 Box?

Where do you have the timing set? 



All of the heat ranges of a series, have the same ground strap. 

Example:
 B7es through B10es have the same ground strap.  B7EV through B10EV have the same ground strap,  B7EGV through B10EGV have the same ground strap and so on...... 

The heat range only changes the operating temperature of the center electrode and the porcelain that surrounds the center electrode.  Changing the heat range has no effect on the operating temperature of the ground strap unless detonation is occurring.

Common causes of detonation:

1.  Low octane fuel
2.  Lean air fuel ratio
3.  Ignition timing that is too advanced or has an ignition that has the wrong timing curve for the engine combination.
4.  Stinger on the exhaust system that is too small for the amount of power the engine is making or spark arrestor that is too restricted.
5.  Loose spark plug
6.  An air bubble in the top of the head that is not allowing the coolant to keep the spark plug threads and spark plug sealing washer area cool. 



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