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Offline rablack21

SE Quads Race 2014, Round 1, Bremen MX Park, C- Class
« on: March 10, 2014, 12:54:59 PM »
Location:Bremen Race Park, Bremen, GA
Series: SE Quads ATV Southern Championship Series 2014

Moto 1: Got a terrible start. Switched from 14/37 gearing to 15/38 for this race; works great on the track but a bit more difficult to come off the line. I probably needed a bit more throttle. I come off the and the engine instantly bogged on me. I checked up a bit with the clutch and hammered on it again. Then it wheelies on me! lol. So down the hill we go with the front tires in the air. You can see it in the first part of the videos. I also got the worst gate pick too because I ended lining up on the gate where one of of the gate tubes was not functioning; so I had to move. Took the only slot left as we had almost a full gate with 10 guys. Come down the hill and get in the middle of the pack. We raced around for the first lap or so and we began to thin about a bit and I started getting into my pace. Around the back side of the track, I came over a table top and hammered it in 4th gear starting my approach into a rolling whoop section. (Note: Track was mostly dry except for in between the rolling whoops.) I wheelie through the first whoop, and then it got ugly! The mud in between the 2nd and 3rd whoop swallowed my front tires almost bringing me to a complete stop! This almost threw me over the handlebars. I didn't stop competely, I was still bouncing through the whoops with half my body hanging over the handlebars. I was holding on frantically to the handlebars trying everything I could not to roll the quad as it was trying to turn side ways and still bucking and kicking! Somehow I managed to get it slowed enough to get back in ride position. I shift down a couple gears to get took off again, but now the two guys that were battling behind me are now caught up to me and passing me. I do the best I can to keep their pass and run neck and neck with them down the middle of the long straight away, but just can't catch up. I pace them for the rest of the race, but never able to catch up again. I finished 8th of 10.

Moto 2: Bare with me guys, gotta go to a meeting. Will update soon.


Here are some pics during the race. This are only the ones my wife took, but I should be able to get some action shots soon from the race photographer.



Warning: Video is very poor. My wife is still trying, but is not very good at video taping races. We are still working on that. Gonna try a tripod next time. Video is only of moto 1, didn't get a video for 2nd moto.
[video=youtube;x_pnmNkV2jE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_pnmNkV2jE&feature=em-upload_owner[/video]

Offline rablack21

SE Quads Race 2014, Round 1, Bremen MX Park, C- Class
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2014, 12:56:50 PM »

Offline JoePA

SE Quads Race 2014, Round 1, Bremen MX Park, C- Class
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2014, 02:11:03 PM »
Waiting on the moto 2 write up!! LOL Work can wait my friend. Note....you need to get one of those bright A$$ suction cup mohawks for your helmet so I know where you are when watching the video! Curious to hear how you liked the 15/38 gearing as I was going to try this as well...maybe even 15/39. let me know what Norris says about your shock...at least get it dialed in a little better. Also what size stem you running?


Ok back to work for me. Looked good out there and remember..its still early in the season.

Offline rablack21

SE Quads Race 2014, Round 1, Bremen MX Park, C- Class
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2014, 02:37:59 PM »
Ok. Back from a long meeting. Sorry about that. On to moto 2.

Moto 2:
I again got off to a bad start out of the gate. I'm not sure if it is the gearing that is just a bit harder to take off in or if I was not giving it enough throttle. Will work on that in the future. If you have seen the video or some of the pics, I was lined up most of the way on the left side. We took off down the hill and I saw half of the guys bumping together on the inside corner. I saw the guy just in front of me sliding around them on the outside and sneaking right up into the mix. I got right up on his grab bar and followed him right up there till I was right at the middle of the pack. We  headed around the track, everything going pretty well. Everyone finally began to break away a little bit. The guys in the very front started to pull away quite a bit as they were hitting almost all of the jumps and most of us were not. More about that later. I followed the guy in front for most of the race. I would reel him in and get tired; and he would start to pull away. I would reel him in again and get tired; again he would pull away. We finally got to the last lap, and I just didn't have the energy left to catch, so I looked behind me to make sure I had a far enough gap from the guys behind me; said screw it, I'll finish where I am. Well, we got through 3 more turns, I come up over a jump, and there he is sitting right in the middle of the track, not moving, shaking his head, I passed him and continued on. I caught up to the guy in front of him with 3 more turns left. I gave it all I had left trying to catch up to that guy. I pushed and pushed and it burned and burned, lol. Got all the way up to about 20 from him, before he crossed over the finish line. I finished 6th.

Conclusion: I finished 5th overall, which by alot of people's standards is not great but I was very happy with it. I gave it all I had and this is what resulted. Considering I had a very rough season last year, and started rough this year, I'm pretty happy with this weekend's results. I have been dealing with an issue with my rear shock that has really left me at a big disadvantage. I just have no confidence in it right now. It has an incredibly stiff ride all the time, but yet has been fresh serviced. I was finally able to connect with my shock builder this weekend as he was at the track. I asked him to come feel my rear suspension. He pushed down on the grab bar and suddenly had this look on his face. I recognized the look cause it's the same one I have. He looked at my and said, "My God, that is stiff!" I said," I know! that is what I have been trying to tell you! lol" He said you never told me it was that bad. I said I have used every word I know to describe it. He said it acted like the linkage was binding like it had the wrong linkage components or something was bad wrong with the shock. He said it was like there was no progression at all. I thought to myself, "finally, now someone else understands besides me that something is not right!". lol. Yesterday, after cleaning the quad, I measured all the linkage components to make sure they WERE for sure for the 86 frame and shock. With the help of [MENTION=125]JoePA[/MENTION], I was able to verify all components were in fact the correct ones. So, I am going to his riding and testing facility on Wednesday to figure out the issue and get is resolved once and for all. I told him I couldn't spend the rest of the season taking the beatings I've been getting from the track and suspension. lol. I am hoping that things will really start to change once we get this rear suspension issue figured out. It is affecting a great deal of the race for me. I wear out extremely fast from the harsh ride and I don't feel that I get very good traction due to the rear not squatting like it should.

As far as everything else, I have nothing but good things to say. Engine ran great, smart carb performed flawlessly. I was ringing the snot out of it both races. And spark plug color and mixture ring looks better than it ever has in my motor.

Offline Burns363R

SE Quads Race 2014, Round 1, Bremen MX Park, C- Class
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2014, 02:53:55 PM »
15T front sprocket sounds pretty aggressive for a 310 racing MX IMHO.  Id go back down a little.  it will help your starts
TRX 363R 02- Laeger Narrow Frame/CR500 Link, Motowoz Suspension, Roll Design +4 LT Arms,RPM Dominator +4 axle, LED 363 MX, LED 350G Pipe, 38 A/S CR Ignition

TRX 370R 86- Laeger Std,ISF-No Link Swinger, JD MGC LT Arms) Motowoz Shocks, LED 370/350D pipe, 38 PWK Carb, CR Ignition

Offline JoePA

SE Quads Race 2014, Round 1, Bremen MX Park, C- Class
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2014, 02:54:28 PM »
Excellent write up and great finish. C class is a ******* class. you got the guys that don't want to move up to B and then you have the guys that belong in C. All in all you left the race with what you needed to know. Gearing questions answered and shock issue getting resolved. I suggest trying a 14/38. I know it sounds crazy but try it for the next practice. I'm curious to hear what comes of the rear shock. I have an idea what it may be as I had a PEP that did the same thing.... No nitrogen in it!!

Carb worked well, engine ran good so all we need to work on is seat time and rear shock!

Offline rablack21

SE Quads Race 2014, Round 1, Bremen MX Park, C- Class
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2014, 03:08:11 PM »
Quote from: Burns363R;28456
15T front sprocket sounds pretty aggressive for a 310 racing MX IMHO.  Id go back down a little.  it will help your starts
It is a little aggressive for starts, but it worked pretty well on the rest of the track. I just wanted to try it and see what I thought about it.
It seems a little aggressive to me as well, but Duncan racing was using them on their stock jugs.

Offline rablack21

SE Quads Race 2014, Round 1, Bremen MX Park, C- Class
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2014, 03:16:39 PM »
Quote from: JoePA;28457
Excellent write up and great finish. C class is a ******* class. you got the guys that don't want to move up to B and then you have the guys that belong in C. All in all you left the race with what you needed to know. Gearing questions answered and shock issue getting resolved. I suggest trying a 14/38. I know it sounds crazy but try it for the next practice. I'm curious to hear what comes of the rear shock. I have an idea what it may be as I had a PEP that did the same thing.... No nitrogen in it!!

Carb worked well, engine ran good so all we need to work on is seat time and rear shock!

Thanks Joe.
You are dead on about the C-class! lol. That is exactly what our C class is made up of.We have a mix of guys not wanting to go to B class yet, guys that should be in C class like myself, and then younger teens that are moving up from a schoolboy class where they have been bred and trained since birth to race and have every luxury and upgrade known to man at their disposal because their daddies like to watch them race.

I doubt I will ever go lower that 14/37 again. 14/38 produces great power and much easier holeshots but seems to require significantly more shifting on the track. I know it's not much different than 14-37, but 14-37 has worked the best so far. I am even considering 14/36 just to get a tad more speed in each gear. And the 310 didn't seem to mind pulling the 15/38 except for on the starts. Everywhere else was pretty good. I honestly hope there is something wrong with the shock as that will make it MUCH easier to diagnose the issue and get back to going again. Either way, I'm not leaving til we get it resolved!

Offline Burns363R

SE Quads Race 2014, Round 1, Bremen MX Park, C- Class
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2014, 03:21:01 PM »
where you launching in first or second gear?
TRX 363R 02- Laeger Narrow Frame/CR500 Link, Motowoz Suspension, Roll Design +4 LT Arms,RPM Dominator +4 axle, LED 363 MX, LED 350G Pipe, 38 A/S CR Ignition

TRX 370R 86- Laeger Std,ISF-No Link Swinger, JD MGC LT Arms) Motowoz Shocks, LED 370/350D pipe, 38 PWK Carb, CR Ignition

Offline rablack21

SE Quads Race 2014, Round 1, Bremen MX Park, C- Class
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2014, 03:23:45 PM »
Quote from: Burns363R;28461
where you launching in first or second gear?
Always 2nd.

Offline Burns363R

SE Quads Race 2014, Round 1, Bremen MX Park, C- Class
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2014, 03:25:19 PM »
With your tall gearing you shoudl be able to launch in first. That will help.
TRX 363R 02- Laeger Narrow Frame/CR500 Link, Motowoz Suspension, Roll Design +4 LT Arms,RPM Dominator +4 axle, LED 363 MX, LED 350G Pipe, 38 A/S CR Ignition

TRX 370R 86- Laeger Std,ISF-No Link Swinger, JD MGC LT Arms) Motowoz Shocks, LED 370/350D pipe, 38 PWK Carb, CR Ignition

Offline rablack21

SE Quads Race 2014, Round 1, Bremen MX Park, C- Class
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2014, 03:46:53 PM »
[MENTION=201]Burns363R[/MENTION]: I believe you are right. It probably should launch pretty well in 1st gear. I worry about doing that though; always a chance of hitting neutral instead of 2nd. I have had this happen several times during racing and practicing starts and have known others to have problems with this as well. And hitting neutral just off the line sucks pretty bad! lol. Are you launching in 1st with your tall gearing or does the big bore pull 2nd with no issues?

Offline ryanowarrior

SE Quads Race 2014, Round 1, Bremen MX Park, C- Class
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2014, 11:42:09 PM »
Nice write up I so wished I could meet up with yall guys on Saturdays :( say your goin down to Quinn's?
Quinn MotorSports - White Chassis
Laeger Crf
Laeger R
Walsh R
Walsh Crf (in the works)

Offline rablack21

SE Quads Race 2014, Round 1, Bremen MX Park, C- Class
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2014, 07:58:42 AM »
Quote from: ryanowarrior;28538
Nice write up I so wished I could meet up with yall guys on Saturdays :( say your goin down to Quinn's?
Yep, Norris has been servicing my suspension, but we haven't been able to see eye to eye on the rear shock issue. I guess I was not fully explaining the issue. When he was at the track this week, he finally understood the problems I was having. He was like, dang this is terrible! Something strange is definitely going on. I am headed to to his facility tomorrow to get it hashed out so I can get back to racing.

 

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