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Offline HAYESTRX250R

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« on: July 07, 2013, 04:49:50 PM »
I have never quite figured out what all the fuss was about because I read so many bits and pieces over the last year or longer.  If I started to care I ended up confused and not sure which side to take.  I know that Carlos was very quick to help out with info and seemed to take great effort in doing so especially when a newbie was asking the same old questions that tend to bother senior members regardless if a TRX250R forum or otherwise (I'm on several forums).  That is a big plus in my book because regardless of my level of experience I know I can always learn from anyone and that is one of my primary reasons for spending my time on here.  My local sportbike forum is overran with shenanigans, if you post regarding riding tips or other motorcycle (directly) related topics there is a bunch waiting to treat you like you just posted another oil thread.  I don't care for that atmosphere especially when we all have a common model of vehicle, opposed to a common type of vehicle.  So I check up on the sportbike forum maybe once per day and xxxxxxx.net became my regular stop.  
That said I won't comment much on my understanding of the whole story that brought so many of you here because I have yet to even hear the whole story from anyone.  I would like to hear it so I can make my damn mind up and move on.  I certainly have seen enough of those bits and pieces by now to see where some of you are coming from, or you could say that my eyebrows have been raised on several occasions.  I also never really noticed any attacks by Pumashine on Carlos over the last year or so like that Admin (or posing Admin) stated.  What I did see was some high post count and very low post count members come from nowhere and attack Carlos in the last 9 months or so as if they all wanted to have the drag racing equivalent of a penis match.  From the outside looking in at first glance (with my muddy level of understanding to the situation) it just looked like some guys with small man's complexes picking on a builder claiming he can't build something to outrun them.  I used to drag race cars and motorcycles and I gave it up for somethings more challenging and technical but the same personality types prevailed.  So again I would like to know the whole story at some point (from both sides) so I can decide who can be trusted or not and in the meantime I guess it will require logging in to 3 forums to catch the best of the classifieds, the builds, the tech and the pics (banging head).  
I guess to sum it up, I had reasons to support Carlos (Am I just another fooled sheep?) while I personally never had much dealing with Tony to this point although I certainly respect his abilities and knowledge.  I never connected all the hatred toward Carlos to Tony until this all blew up and the Admin pointed the finger at Tony.  That Admin by the way is nasty in the threads and a teddy bear by PM which raises eyebrows as well.  I just hope one of these two sites eventually lives on without any data loss.  Cheers!

Offline rsss396

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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2013, 05:13:21 PM »
I have saved a whole file of Carlos forum lies but have them saved on my computer at work on Tuesday I will post all his original lies about how he does not own or work for BDT but they are the greatest shop bla bla bla..
He was asking the most basic questions when he first joined the forums then all of a sudden he became Mr. Know it all over night.
Thats all I will say for now and believe me if you hang around here you will see a whole lot less posts where someone is not trying to sell you there product.
Let your product do the selling and you will never have to push what you have to offer if its that good.
Anyone looking for a great builder I highly recommend the following.
For CP products dealers I would recommend:
Arlan at LED(site sponsor), Pete Schemberger at Hybrid Engineering, Mat Shearer at Shearer Custom Pipes, Dennis Packard at Packard Racing, and Nate McCoy of McCoys Peformance.

Other great builders I also would recommend: Neil Prichard, Jerry Hall, Bubba Ramsey and James Dodge.

Offline Pumashine

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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2013, 05:20:51 PM »
Never had any arguing until Carlos came on the scene. He got banned on ATV riders and was about to get banned on .net when he became a site sponsor. Either that or be banned. Attacked anyone who questioned him. Nothing has changed in 3 years. He posed as a newbie asking questions and later answered them himself. The problem existed on 3WW also. Claims to be the best with outrageous HP from a stock 250r motor. He is not a 250r brethren, does not even have a bike. He  started to make money buying unwanted 250r parts for $1 on ebay  and sell for as much as he can extort. All his answers to newbie questions come from old has bens that tell him the answer or simply google it to find out. He then words in into what the newbie wants to hear. He admitted in the forums he has no interest in BDT other than a greedy personal interest. In my eyes he grown to be the 250r devil.

The pre-Carlos members saw all this happen. I and several others pursued getting him banned. We just could not stand it anymore. Our 250r brethren now drink the coolaid and spend big $$$ at BDT. He uses his godlike knowledge to convince the newcomer to buy from him. BDT did not exist 5 years ago. He claims to know the Honda engineers. He claims everyone lies about him. When in truth he is lying himself. He can't touch me because I don't care to make money. I am not a salesman pushing my goods on you claiming to be your friend. I used to concentrate on helping the 250r brethren. Carlos turned me into hating him and waste my time trying to persuade you all he was no good. Thanks to the help of everyone that saw what was going on has now signed on to make this the site that one used to be. Welcome to a BDT free environment.
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Offline grinNbarritt

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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2013, 05:21:10 PM »
Glad to see im not only person confused by the fourm antics over there

Offline grinNbarritt

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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2013, 05:24:11 PM »
Is BDT Carlos's own business or did they hire him to ramrod sales?

Offline HAYESTRX250R

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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2013, 05:27:20 PM »
I get what you are saying and that is some of what I have picked up on in the past, I actually meant to put that part about recommending BDT as if just another customer.  I had seen that and actually that was my first real evidence I had picked up on in the last year.  Tying that with the stange post before being banned from EX, one has to stop and think about it.  I tend to be a conspiracist and at this moment I really question who is ffpowersports after the PMs I got just after the nasty replies in a couple threads.  I tried to be level headed as possible and was talked down to and had a thread closed simply asking for QOTM to return.

Offline Polonda

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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2013, 05:27:23 PM »
Welcome Hayes!  Glad you decided to give .org a chance.  I can definitely see/understand where you are coming from.  For those that have not seen everything go down from the beginning it can be very confusing.

Offline HAYESTRX250R

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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2013, 05:32:28 PM »
Quote from: Polonda;1537
Welcome Hayes!  Glad you decided to give .org a chance.  I can definitely see/understand where you are coming from.  For those that have not seen everything go down from the beginning it can be very confusing.

Thanks guys, couldn't have summed it up like that myself!

Offline Fear250r

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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2013, 05:43:11 PM »
Welcome aboard Hayes!

Rsss and Puma hit the nail on the head.  It was such a great site till Carlos showed up and the site was sold off to some clowns who could give an F about 250r's.  And the ass hat running the show actually hates riding quads (direct quote from flowersports).
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Offline HAYESTRX250R

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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2013, 05:53:21 PM »
Quote from: Fear250r;1546
Welcome aboard Hayes!

Rsss and Puma hit the nail on the head.  It was such a great site till Carlos showed up and the site was sold off to some clowns who could give an F about 250r's.  And the ass hat running the show actually hates riding quads (direct quote from flowersports).

If he is who he says he is then I have his ego pegged.

Offline red88r

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« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2013, 09:25:06 PM »
Welcome.  Really love the look of your quad man.
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Offline sameltoe

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« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2013, 10:36:20 PM »
Quote from: red88r;1976
Welcome.  Really love the look of your quad man.
I do too! Sweet ride for sure!
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Offline All250R

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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2013, 03:13:40 AM »
Quote from: rsss396;1529
I have saved a whole file of Carlos forum lies but have them saved on my computer at work on Tuesday I will post all his original lies about how he does not own or work for BDT but they are the greatest shop bla bla bla..
He was asking the most basic questions when he first joined the forums then all of a sudden he became Mr. Know it all over night.
Thats all I will say for now and believe me if you hang around here you will see a whole lot less posts where someone is not trying to sell you there product.
Let your product do the selling and you will never have to push what you have to offer if its that good.


Funny! I did the same thing before I quit posting. Mine are from macdizzy and atvriders when he was posing as a newbie (2010-2011), and I think a couple from when he was trying to keep his real name anonymous and accusing others of having multiple identities... The guy is an empty shell of a human. I had to quit posting bc I either needed to suffocate the life from his living corpse or move on. Guys like him are too sociopathic to feel a sense of guilt or reason (trust me on this, my ex has a similar problem lol), so it became not worthwhile to care as long as people were getting something out of the guy that they valued. My opinion is that he's a infected disease. ****sucker... lol

Offline HAYESTRX250R

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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2013, 10:13:54 PM »
Quote from: red88r;1976
Welcome.  Really love the look of your quad man.

Quote from: sameltoe;2008
I do too! Sweet ride for sure!

Thanks you both have some wicked rides, Sam once upon a time we had very similar looking bikes.

 

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