Author Topic: Will full synthetic oils mix well at 32:1 or 20:1? (Read 12783 times)

Jerry Hall · « **Reply #30 on:** March 11, 2014, 10:41:55 AM »

Quote from: udontknowme;28546

maybe wax is part of the castor and gets solid at a certain temp causing the cloud

The wax (or known as gum in the castor industry) is one of the parts of the castor that provides it's unique high temperature lubrication property. Typically, the castor oil that undergo more de-gumming burns cleaner but does not have as much lubrication protection at high temperatures.

I have seen some synthetics cloud with some race fuel that have a low specific gravity or a very low aromatic content.

Try mixing petroleum based two-stroke oil with methanol or ethanol. It will also cloud up or fall to the bottom of the container like a rock because petroleum will not dissolve in alcohol without another chemical that will help the oil dissolve.

F-Red · « **Reply #31 on:** March 11, 2014, 12:58:11 PM »

Quote from: red88r;28491

Super Techiniplate at 32:1 and it works great. Klotz had been around since 1959.

^^ All, I'll ever run! Klotz has proven to me over time, stick with what works for you! :encouragement:

supernutt · « **Reply #32 on:** March 23, 2014, 11:08:33 AM »

I mixed up a gallon of dragon 110 with 24:1 amsoil dominator in a clear glass jug. Watched it for a week and it never separated. It FINALLY got cold enough again today to freeze up the mud in the fields so I took both quads for a spin with 24:1 amsoil. I noticed no negative effects of having that much oil in the fuel. I am still not sure about long term effects but for now this is what I am going to run. Even tried some trail riding for 15 minutes and then opening it up in the fields with no issues. Thanks for the advise from all that posted.

Burns363R · « **Reply #33 on:** March 23, 2014, 12:27:51 PM »

I left my XC bike in my race trailer the other night when it got down it the teens. Next day i started it and ran it for about 2-3 min before it started to act up. Drained the bowl and fuel line and got a ton of oil out of it. Basically the oil separated as everyone has stated it will. This was with 110 oct fuel and Maxima Castor 927 @28:1.

So it is a definite issue with this oil.

One solution is to run the bike on, the ON position instead of reserve. This will pick up fuel from higher in the tank and allow the oil to be sloshed back into suspension. Typically racing MX i always use the reserve position out of habbit. I will need to retrain my self to do otherwise.

supernutt · « **Reply #34 on:** March 23, 2014, 12:34:53 PM »

BUT wouldn't all the oil be in the bottom of the tank when you start it up? Which means no oil in the fuel that it is getting to start it?

Burns363R · « **Reply #35 on:** March 23, 2014, 12:39:43 PM »

At 28:1, theres plenty still haha... I have a hard time believing that your gettin all the oil out. But i honstly dont know. Most of my season is run in temps 60-90 degrees. Only the very early part here do i need to worry about it.

supernutt · « **Reply #36 on:** April 27, 2014, 09:48:13 AM »

Has anyone had any experience with rust on crankshafts with amsoil dominator? I have been reading up on it and it seems that some people are complaining about it not having enough corrosion protection for sitting around? It gets really humid here and this would be an issue for me. Thought I read somewhere that conventional oils protect much better than synthetics? Any opinions would be appreciated. Been running at 24:1 for a month now with no noticeable issues........maybe the increased oil will help?