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Offline fearlessfred

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« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2014, 10:35:42 PM »
I wonder how the hell I ever kept my r running with a/s on it,nevermind all the years I ran a pj 38. really though,thats not what I got out of what jerry said.

Offline patman13mia

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« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2014, 11:06:36 PM »
i sure did. he put the info in big bold letters. i was never scammed by somebody saying buy this now!! just did a lil research on the forums and saw good results so i bought one. what other carbs are you guys running? only other i know if is mikuni. are they better?

Offline fearlessfred

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« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2014, 11:27:47 PM »
Quote from: patman13mia;35744
i sure did. he put the info in big bold letters. i was never scammed by somebody saying buy this now!! just did a lil research on the forums and saw good results so i bought one. what other carbs are you guys running? only other i know if is mikuni. are they better?
I have two a/s  and Im not selling them to buy anything else I don't ride at an idle and you probably don't either .what I got out of what jerry said is that most of use get sold a bill of goods and we are not armed with enough info to make best use of our money.If I were you I would not be disappointed in owning a a/s
« Last Edit: June 03, 2014, 11:52:51 PM by fearlessfred »

Offline patman13mia

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« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2014, 11:29:26 PM »
dude i dont own a pwk i own a 38mm air striker

Offline Tbone07

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« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2014, 11:49:10 PM »
Quote from: patman13mia;35746
dude i dont own a pwk i own a 38mm air striker

He's saying we were all fooled by thinking a newer Keihin carb with a fancy "air stryker" name would be a huge improvement.

Lots of people switched to the A/S when it really didn't have any proven benefit. Just a very good marketing scheme. Don't take it personal

Now back to the original topic.......have you by chance checked the compression on the engine?
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Offline fearlessfred

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« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2014, 11:51:51 PM »
Quote from: patman13mia;35746
dude i dont own a pwk i own a 38mm air striker
yea me too.they are basically the same thing .I will edit that

Offline patman13mia

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« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2014, 11:53:59 PM »
its cool bro i am not tryna argue one bit. i think its hard to understand the tone in reading words. i understand they are pretty much the same thing now. so yes back to the op!!

Offline fearlessfred

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« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2014, 11:58:14 PM »
Quote from: Tbone07;35748
He's saying we were all fooled by thinking a newer Keihin carb with a fancy "air stryker" name would be a huge improvement.

Lots of people switched to the A/S when it really didn't have any proven benefit. Just a very good marketing scheme. Don't take it personal

Now back to the original topic.......have you by chance checked the compression on the engine?
sorry mr T ,Im old and I get side tracked really easy

Offline Jerry Hall

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« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2014, 12:49:29 AM »
Quote from: fearlessfred;35745
I have two a/s  and Im not selling them to buy anything else I don't ride at an idle and you probably don't either .what I got out of what jerry said is that most of use get sold a bill of goods and we are not armed with enough info to make best use of our money.If I were you I would not be disappointed in owning a a/s

I am not trying to promote Mikunis or telling you guys to throw away your air-strikers.  If you have an air striker or an old Bing or remote flow bowl Amal that is well tuned and works to your satisfaction, why consider the next new carb design that may be released.   In some of the earlier post I was just trying to alert those of you that may be new to the sport and want to jump on every new thing that comes along when what you have is probably as good as the new stuff especially if you are still try to develope your carburetor tuning skills.

Offline hub97119

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« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2014, 12:59:04 AM »
Remember me ?  I'm the guy who started this thread. Nice dialog,; it seems sometimes my questions elicit this type of exchange, good for all. Jerry I haven't had time to take the measurement you asked about. If the slide is sitting to high is there an adjustment which would correct it. Also someone asked about comp. and electrical. I'm at 210 and all electrical is within spec. That is one of the first things I checked. I have this intake set up because it was what was with the motor when i bought it and he had no problems with it so I wanted to keep things intact. I have carbs from 34 - 40.5 MM I could try, PE, PWK, PJ etc. but no Mikuni. When this bike is warm it runs like a bat out of hell. Anyway like I said it is just hard starting but maybe it is my 60 yr. old leg, but I doubt it as I'm still able to get up and around trees all day long. I have tried a b8es but still the same. I suppose i will continue to pour a teaspoon of mix in the cyl. for the time being. I should post a picture of the pipe I have on it and let you guys try to guess what it is. ( I don't know, but it pulls hard in every gear ). That should be fuel for some more lively exchange.  Thanks all  Ron  ( Gaston, OR. )

Offline Jerry Hall

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« Reply #25 on: June 04, 2014, 01:03:46 AM »
Quote from: hub97119;35756
Remember me ?  I'm the guy who started this thread. Nice dialog,; it seems sometimes my questions elicit this type of exchange, good for all. Jerry I haven't had time to take the measurement you asked about. If the slide is sitting to high is there an adjustment which would correct it. Also someone asked about comp. and electrical. I'm at 210 and all electrical is within spec. That is one of the first things I checked. I have this intake set up because it was what was with the motor when i bought it and he had no problems with it so I wanted to keep things intact. I have carbs from 34 - 40.5 MM I could try, PE, PWK, PJ etc. but no Mikuni. When this bike is warm it runs like a bat out of hell. Anyway like I said it is just hard starting but maybe it is my 60 yr. old leg, but I doubt it as I'm still able to get up and around trees all day long. I have tried a b8es but still the same. I suppose i will continue to pour a teaspoon of mix in the cyl. for the time being. I should post a picture of the pipe I have on it and let you guys try to guess what it is. ( I don't know, but it pulls hard in every gear ). That should be fuel for some more lively exchange.  Thanks all  Ron  ( Gaston, OR. )


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Offline hub97119

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« Reply #26 on: June 04, 2014, 01:05:16 AM »
Thank you sir

 

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