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Offline Anthony0327

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« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2015, 01:40:20 PM »
I appreciate all the feedback and help. So what your saying is don't go by the book for the torque settings? If that's the case I had the torque set way to high.

Offline Pumashine

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« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2015, 02:17:16 PM »
Quote from: Anthony0327;48710
I appreciate all the feedback and help. So what your saying is don't go by the book for the torque settings? If that's the case I had the torque set way to high.
I thought it was 6 ft-lbs for 6mm bolts. You must have been reading the setting for 8mm bolts. 20 ft-lbs on your head nuts is OK but not 6mm bolts.
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Offline Tbone07

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« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2015, 02:55:47 PM »
18 ft-lbs? That's wayyy too high

For reference I believe the base nuts are 18-21. Don't quote me on that, could be head nuts too.

To prevent myself from over-tightening crucial nuts and bolts I make sure I use a 1/4 inch drive ratchet.
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Offline Anthony0327

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« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2015, 02:57:33 PM »
After I get this fixed I will do everything by feel. The bolts that mount it to the frame will be doing most of the support anyways. I think I will purchase all OEM bolts from Honda this time also for the engine cases. I will look into getting one of the kits your talking about Puma. Just want to make sure it gets done right. Thanks for the help.

Offline Burns363R

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« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2015, 03:04:37 PM »
6mm bolts is 96in/lb which is 8 ft/lb.
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Offline JOHNNY FIVE

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« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2015, 03:04:42 PM »
The stainless bolt kits,have a lower torque setting than the stock bolts.Like Puma said,the case and case cover bolts should be torqued to 5,no more than 6.

Offline CeaserTheThird

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« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2015, 04:35:25 AM »
So these Case Bolts pictured are Tourqed at  ?




Offline dem3500

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« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2015, 05:31:28 AM »
Just snug them with a 1/4" drive ratchet and quit worrying about torque!
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Offline Anthony0327

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« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2015, 09:26:39 AM »
Yeah I messed up. I should have just snugged them the first time. Just do it in a pattern when you do tighten them and from all the feedback I'm sure you will be fine.

Offline Tbone07

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« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2015, 09:40:10 AM »
I also put a tiny drop of blue Loctite on them, just for insurance. 1/4 ratchet is the key though
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Offline Anthony0327

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« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2015, 10:07:39 AM »
I sure wish I would have consulted before I made my move to assemble. I'm gonna fixe this right and make sure I don't screw up again. Thanks again for all the help folks!

Offline Wrench U

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« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2016, 11:51:00 PM »
Inch lbs with a 1/4 drive. If u want to be exact. I like using T-handles on case bolts, dosent let u get to much leverage and u can fell the bolt stretch. After a couple u will be able to fell the cases come together then seal. I also like to lap cases on 400-600 grit wet/dry sand paper on glass or marble slab with some lubricant. Not necessary on R's cause they use a thick gasket but u would be amazed how distorted they can get. Definitely! use anti size on stainless to stainless.

Offline thesmith87250r

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« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2016, 12:03:35 AM »
Um is it possible  that you  can use a bolt  that is about  4 or 5 threads longer an grab some thread a lil deeper in the case ? Maybe  the new bolt ya used was a lil shorter than stock ?

Offline Aceman

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« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2016, 08:01:44 PM »
Quote from: Tbone07;48753
I also put a tiny drop of blue Loctite on them, just for insurance. 1/4 ratchet is the key though

I agree with this!!  I'm pretty picky about making sure I put a couple drops on pretty much EVERY bolt, but my last trip to Winchester my motor locked up when I shot off into the brush on a tight trail.  I went to start it back up and it was locked up tight.  Come to find out, the bolt holding the case halves together behind the flywheel had backed out and wedged itself just right such that the motor wouldn't spin over.  I don't know if I forgot to put some on that bolt or just not enough, NEVER AGAIN!

Just make sure to use blue loctite, not red, for the bolts that go into aluminum.
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Offline Pumashine

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« Reply #29 on: January 18, 2016, 08:25:27 PM »
Quote from: Aceman;63378
Just make sure to use blue loctite, not red, for the bolts that go into aluminum.
I only use blue. Especially on the bolts under the stator cover
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