Stripping a 14mm drain plug help!!

[Pumashine]

T IS it possible to do a time-sert that could go back to a factory 12mm?

Yes, you have the wrong kit listed. Part# 1215 is the M12x1.5 insert which I was referring to.Puts you back for the stock plug

[csides66]

Yes, you have the wrong kit listed. Part# 1215 is the M12x1.5 insert which I was referring to.Puts you back for the stock plug

So even though the hole is tapped for 14mm the 12mm x 1.5 will work and I can get a 12mm drain plug.

[Pumashine]

The 12mm kit has a drill with the diameter of .480". If the hole in your case is larger than that it will not work. Some of the other brand of inserts use a larger pilot hole. I am not familiar with those.

[csides66]

The 12mm kit has a drill with the diameter of .480". If the hole in your case is larger than that it will not work. Some of the other brand of inserts use a larger pilot hole. I am not familiar with those.

I went to a Drill bit conversion table and .480 is a smidge more than 12mm which is logical for a 12mm insert. The drain plug we pulled out of this ATV "miked" aka Micrometer at 13.78mm so it looks like i will have to stay with 14mm kit i guess.

[udontknowme]

the original bolt is 12 mm ? someone stripped that out and put in a 14mm ? now the 14mm is stripped out ?   gonna have to drill and tap cases to 16mm now. im assuming the timesert OD will be 16mm and ID will be 12mm. thats how other inserts are. is there even enough material in the cases for that large of hole ?  good luck. hard as hell to drill the hole straight with a black and decker. no easy chore taping the threads straight either

[jfwyatt1]

ive had good luck using spark plug repair kits as long as you keep the tap straight. i usually chamfer the hole after its tapped and the insert fits flush with the case then locktite it in place. the kits are like $8-$15 at a auto parts store.

[C-Leigh Racing]

With out the movie "grease" referenced... Tell me more!

Not quite following the "grease" part of your reply, but those oil pan drain bolt kits, have different size short bolts, washers & even screw in type rubber plugs & they are a self tapping type from like a 3/8s up to I think a 16mm. Theres several ways using that kit to repair a stripped out oil pan drain bolt hole.
Neil

[smackie017]

had the same problem last week i went to advance and found a oversize self tapping 14mm drain bolt run it in and out till i got enough threads to hold and then ground the drain plug down till it wouldn't hit the shifter shaft and it works like a charm with no leak.:ride:

[C-Leigh Racing]

had the same problem last week i went to advance and found a oversize self tapping 14mm drain bolt run it in and out till i got enough threads to hold and then ground the drain plug down till it wouldn't hit the shifter shaft and it works like a charm with no leak.:ride:

You brought up a good point, grinding that drain bolt off some, because the only way trans oil can drain back into the trans area from the clutch area, is through a small hole in the bottom of the right case half right where the hole for the drain bolt goes & if the bolt is to long, it will block that hole up & keep the oil from draining back into the trans area.

Next time any of you have the clutch cover off, look under & behind the clutch & you'll see that small hole & probably will see threads of the drain bolt.
Neil

[csides66]

You brought up a good point, grinding that drain bolt off some, because the only way trans oil can drain back into the trans area from the clutch area, is through a small hole in the bottom of the right case half right where the hole for the drain bolt goes & if the bolt is to long, it will block that hole up & keep the oil from draining back into the trans area.

Next time any of you have the clutch cover off, look under & behind the clutch & you'll see that small hole & probably will see threads of the drain bolt.
Neil

I did take your advice and did the oversized self tapping drain plug. I didn't grind it down. Should I just see how tall the stock plug is and grind down?

[C-Leigh Racing]

I did take your advice and did the oversized self tapping drain plug. I didn't grind it down. Should I just see how tall the stock plug is and grind down?

Even the stock OEM drain plug is to long. If you were to grind the plug down enough that you couldnt see any of the threads on the bolt, with the aluminum washer in place, you wouldnt have but like 1/4" left of the threads, which is just about the thickness of the case where the drain hole is located.

If you had a way to do it, best way would be to taper the end of the bolt, so that the oil could pass through the hole & around the bolt, but either way the bolt threads will end up shorter.
Neil