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Offline Bowtie316

Petcock mod flow data
« on: October 18, 2013, 10:15:02 PM »
I just thought I would share the results of some testingthat I carried out.  
I followed the same procedure that KSRRider2 used, 10 oz in a clear plastic bottle, and used a stop watch to record the amount of time it took to fill to the 10 oz line.  Here are my results;

These are with stock petcock, stock tank and hoses.

With 90 degree visu-filter, Petcock in on position, full tank of gas, - 32.18 seconds to the mark.

For the rest of the testing, no filter was used.


Petcock in ON position, half tank of gas – 18.88 seconds to the mark.
Petcock in ON position, full tank of gas – 17.22 seconds to the mark.
Petcock on RES position, full tank of gas – 17.09 seconds to the mark.
Then I ground the stop off the plate on the petcock so I could use the ON+RES  mod position.
Petcock in new ON+RESposition, full tank of gas – 12.19 and backed that up with an 11.76.
Then I drilled the gas cap vent holes to 5/32” (2 on bottom and the nipple hole).
Petcock on ON+RES position, full tank of gas – 11.72 seconds to the mark.
Petcock on ON+RES, full tank of gas, No Gas Cap – 11.43 seconds to the mark.
I tried it again with a short hose and a piston shaped vent that is on my sons TTR90, and came up with around 13 seconds (I didn’t write it down).

So based on my results, I conclude that the ON+RES mod is a good one, but the pingel still flows much more.   The drilled cap didn’t make much change but It would make more difference if you had a pingel and were flowing in the 6  second range.
« Last Edit: October 20, 2013, 12:17:30 PM by Bowtie316 »

Offline udontknowme

Petcock mod flow data
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2013, 11:19:58 PM »
them guzzlers work damn good. probly way overkill for a gas engine though
to much power is almost enough

Offline taft372

Petcock mod flow data
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2013, 02:31:45 AM »
I run a pingel and love it!!!

Offline DnB_Racing

Petcock mod flow data
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2013, 04:27:20 AM »
this idea probably has no real benefit, but its late and im just thinking about this

you could put a small check valve on the vent tube and pressurize the tank with a couple pounds of pressure before say a drag race to have added pressure???
not sure what it would do but just a thought

Offline F-Red

Petcock mod flow data
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2013, 08:01:49 AM »
Quote from: Bowtie316;15177
Then I ground the stop off the plate on the petcock so I could use the ON+RES  mod position.
Petcock in new ON+RESposition, full tank of gas – 12.19 and backed that up with an 11.76.

How ironic! I planned on doing this mod today. That's a significant, improvement.
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Offline Bowtie316

Petcock mod flow data
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2013, 09:04:10 AM »
Quote from: F-Red;15190
How ironic! I planned on doing this mod today. That's a significant, improvement.

Yes, I was impressed, you can see and hear the difference switching from ON to ON+RES and the test data backs it up.

Word of caution though, this mod is best done with an empty tank.  I did it with a full tank and the petcock did not keep the fuel shut off so I had it draining into a gas can.  Not a big deal.

Offline F-Red

Petcock mod flow data
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2013, 10:40:27 AM »
Comparing two different petcocks. Looks to be a mod on the left. Is this a factor?

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Offline Bowtie316

Petcock mod flow data
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2013, 11:02:53 AM »
Quote from: F-Red;15213
Comparing two different petcocks. Looks to be a mod on the left. Is this a factor?

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Yeah I'm sure that would help too.  What size are those holes? I might have to give it a try and continue the experiment.

Offline F-Red

Petcock mod flow data
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2013, 11:47:23 AM »
Stock cock .195 Bored out cock .235

That's a 20.5% increase in volume. :beguiled: Fuel bowl should fill with those numbers!
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Offline Wes350x

Petcock mod flow data
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2013, 11:48:36 AM »
I did that exactly like the pic with my last petcock when I rebuilt it.
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Offline F-Red

Petcock mod flow data
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2013, 12:05:12 PM »
Quote from: Wes350x;15223
I did that exactly like the pic with my last petcock when I rebuilt it.

That's so funny Wes! It was yours! :joyous:

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Offline Wes350x

Petcock mod flow data
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2013, 12:09:01 PM »
Haha! Well there ya go! You should check the flow rate on it
1988 250R

Offline rsss396

Petcock mod flow data
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2013, 12:16:23 PM »
hey been throwing that idea out for years, we have done that since the 90's and even use that mod on alky setups

I did the same style tests where I timed it, don't have the numbers anymore but they were very much like yours with a significant improvement by grinding the tab off running both.

I just drill and tap a 1/8 pipe-3/8 hose fitting into the gas cap for a vent
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Offline Bowtie316

Petcock mod flow data
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2013, 03:56:12 PM »
Yes rsss396, it was your post from a long time ago that made me want to try it.  It definitely works.  Thanks!

The next step will be to drill them out and time that.  Not sure when that will happen though, got other junk to work on.

Offline Jerry Hall

Petcock mod flow data
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2013, 08:11:19 PM »
Quote from: F-Red;15222
Stock cock .195 Bored out cock .235

That's a 20.5% increase in volume. :beguiled: Fuel bowl should fill with those numbers!



Going from .195" to .235" is an increase in DIAMETER of 20.5%


Going from .195" to .235" is an increase in AREA of 45%



If there are not any restrictions above or below the .235 diameter hole you should have an increase in VOLUME (flow rate) of about 45%.

 

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