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Offline jamieg45

Water pump shaft
« on: November 25, 2013, 08:09:14 PM »
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Offline jamieg45

Water pump shaft
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2013, 09:43:07 PM »
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Offline jamieg45

Water pump shaft
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2013, 07:34:06 AM »
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Offline Pumashine

Water pump shaft
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2013, 04:16:41 PM »
What happened to the impeller?
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Offline jamieg45

Water pump shaft
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2013, 09:28:21 PM »
Quote from: Pumashine;18587
What happened to the impeller?
I have no clue Tony, this came out of a spare cover I had without a waterpump cover on it.
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Offline C-Leigh Racing

Water pump shaft
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2013, 01:41:07 PM »
Tony,
Sometimes, the nut will come loose holding the impeller to the shaft & when that happens, the spring inside the seal will push the impeller forward, far enough that it will make contact with the thin defusser plate & will wear the ends of the impeller blades. It will take a while for it to wear like that because of the coolant being in the area.
Only thing about it, once the water pump is taken apart & say rebuilt, that worn impeller if used, wont sit as close to the thin tin defusser as it needs to & the pump cant push as much coolant up into the cylinder. Those impeller blades need to sit as close as they can to that defusser so that the coolant can only go one way & not slip past the blades.

I guess if you really think about it, how many times do we put an engine together & never think about the water pump, other than if the bearing is ok or the seal is in good shape.
Checking all things like some will do, the idea might be a bit over board, but would be a good thing to clay the clearance between those impeller blades & that defusser tin to be sure it is sitting close enough.
I dont know if Honda even list a spec on that clearance, not that I remember.
Neil
C-Leigh Racing, in memory of Caraleigh Pritchard
Race team for 2015
Chuckie Creech #25 TRX450R, Pro, Pro Am, Pro Am Unlimited
Andrea Creech # 25 TRX450R, Womens (National ATVA EDT)
Andrea Creech #33 TRX350R, Womens (local EDT)

If it aint got a hot weed eater 2 stroke engine, all its good for is a pit bike

Offline jamieg45

Water pump shaft
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2013, 03:39:56 PM »
Thanks C-leigh racing
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Offline C-Leigh Racing

Water pump shaft
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2013, 03:49:33 PM »
All is not lost though Jamie.
You know the little washer that goes behind the impeller, say like if you had a few of those, the impeller could be cleaned up on the end, those little tits removed & then some of those washers added to shim the impeller out, but attention would need to be paid to the seal, to be sure the impeller wasnt shimed out enough that the seal didnt have enough spring pressure.

Theres always a way to fix something, dont ever throw anything away.
Some might laugh about what said, but let hard times fall on them & see what happens.
Neil
C-Leigh Racing, in memory of Caraleigh Pritchard
Race team for 2015
Chuckie Creech #25 TRX450R, Pro, Pro Am, Pro Am Unlimited
Andrea Creech # 25 TRX450R, Womens (National ATVA EDT)
Andrea Creech #33 TRX350R, Womens (local EDT)

If it aint got a hot weed eater 2 stroke engine, all its good for is a pit bike

Offline Pumashine

Water pump shaft
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2013, 01:34:01 AM »
Quote from: C-Leigh Racing;18655
You know the little washer that goes behind the impeller, say like if you had a few of those, the impeller could be cleaned up on the end, those little tits removed & then some of those washers added to shim the impeller out, but attention would need to be paid to the seal, to be sure the impeller wasnt shimed out enough that the seal didnt have enough spring pressure.

Neil
Thanks Niel, I cut those new stainless replacement washers all the time.
Puma 408, Puma 431,  Pilot 412, Puma 431, Mini-tooth 486 Trx450r
89mm  Mini tooth Shearer in frame pipe chromed! With Cascade  Q

Offline jamieg45

Water pump shaft
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2013, 10:26:36 AM »
Thanks guys I appreciate the help and info, I still have a spare and one in my 89 clutch cover complete.
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Offline C-Leigh Racing

Water pump shaft
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2013, 01:13:27 PM »
Quote from: Pumashine;18692
Thanks Niel, I cut those new stainless replacement washers all the time.

Hey, now that is a good thing, maybe add those to your list of products offered.
What about the thin metal washer for the clutch update, one the thrust bearing rides on, could you make those ?.
Neil
C-Leigh Racing, in memory of Caraleigh Pritchard
Race team for 2015
Chuckie Creech #25 TRX450R, Pro, Pro Am, Pro Am Unlimited
Andrea Creech # 25 TRX450R, Womens (National ATVA EDT)
Andrea Creech #33 TRX350R, Womens (local EDT)

If it aint got a hot weed eater 2 stroke engine, all its good for is a pit bike

Offline Pumashine

Water pump shaft
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2013, 01:16:32 PM »
Quote from: C-Leigh Racing;18722
Hey, now that is a good thing, maybe add those to your list of products offered.
What about the thin metal washer for the clutch update, one the thrust bearing rides on, could you make those ?.
Neil
I am making those from .015" and .030" to shim the slingshot lockout with the 89 update if needed.
Puma 408, Puma 431,  Pilot 412, Puma 431, Mini-tooth 486 Trx450r
89mm  Mini tooth Shearer in frame pipe chromed! With Cascade  Q

Offline C-Leigh Racing

Water pump shaft
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2013, 01:21:45 PM »
Quote from: Pumashine;18724
I am making those from .015" and .030" to shim the slingshot lockout with the 89 update if needed.

Kool.
The OEM Honda clutch washer, what thickness is it ?.
Neil
C-Leigh Racing, in memory of Caraleigh Pritchard
Race team for 2015
Chuckie Creech #25 TRX450R, Pro, Pro Am, Pro Am Unlimited
Andrea Creech # 25 TRX450R, Womens (National ATVA EDT)
Andrea Creech #33 TRX350R, Womens (local EDT)

If it aint got a hot weed eater 2 stroke engine, all its good for is a pit bike

Offline Pumashine

Water pump shaft
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2013, 01:51:37 PM »
Quote from: C-Leigh Racing;18726
Kool.
The OEM Honda clutch washer, what thickness is it ?.
Neil
The OEM one I have in my hands measures .040" thick. You get a .010" shim with a slingshot lockout. I cut the thickness of sheet metal we have as shims or replacements. I have 28 gauge =.015. 22 gauge = .030, 20 gauge = .036, 18 gauge = .048 and  16 gauge = 060.
Puma 408, Puma 431,  Pilot 412, Puma 431, Mini-tooth 486 Trx450r
89mm  Mini tooth Shearer in frame pipe chromed! With Cascade  Q

Offline jamieg45

Water pump shaft
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2013, 11:18:50 PM »
Bump need gone who wants it fro $25 shipped
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