Yeah don't even give him a compliment first.....^^^^^:sign0157: All I can say is awesome job on saving that one from the scrap pile. And I know aftermarket frames are cool and I want one still......most of the time for most people a stock gusseted frame is all you need. If you can get by without spending money right away for a frame is a plus for me. Alot of respect for guys that run a stock frame yet.