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Offline bnau267

Hinson Quick Change cover and plate
« on: January 14, 2014, 07:38:48 PM »
Who would be in for around $400 (w/core exchange) if you could buy one from Hinson?
« Last Edit: January 14, 2014, 10:42:35 PM by bnau267 »

Offline bnau267

Hinson Quick Change cover and plate
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2014, 11:00:19 PM »
CHICKENS!  Well you don't have to respond to this thread but please email kyle@hinsonracing.com if you have the money to spend and are a serious buyer.  No confirmation on price so I based it on quotes from Burgard and CT racing.  Although CT is somewhat questionable terms of taking the order.  If we can line up some real demand, based on conversation with Hinson, I feel they would be willing to consider a limited run.  I could be completely wrong, but I believe they still have a special place in their heart for the R.  Now if I'm the only one willing to put money up and contact them, we will continue to pay $400+ for roached out nasty covers & plates on Ebay.

Offline bnau267

Hinson Quick Change cover and plate
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2014, 11:17:25 PM »
I've been working on them for 4 months.  A couple more months won't hurt a thing...lol.  I'm just tired of seeing the prices these things are fetching on Ebay.
« Last Edit: January 14, 2014, 11:57:26 PM by bnau267 »

Offline tretimit16

Hinson Quick Change cover and plate
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2014, 11:45:12 PM »
I have been talkng with kyle at hinson for over a year about making these covers. He has told me multiple times they will be making a limited run of the quick change cover. If you call and talk to Paul at hinson he will tell you that hinson will NEVER make this cover again they are done because it cost them more to make them than what they can now sell them for. The biggest thing is that tons of people want this cover but when it comes time to fork over the money to buy it not very many step forward. If they were to make them they would have to have around 200 commited buyers to even consider it. I actually offered to buy 50 covers from them if they would make a run and they turned it down. I'm not saying we should give up but I just don't think there will ever be enough people that can afford it. Another reason they don't want to do it is because the last time they made a run they had so much trouble selling off all of they that they sold all remaining covers to ct.

Offline tretimit16

Hinson Quick Change cover and plate
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2014, 11:47:34 PM »
Also I think kyle said the covers would be $450-500 if they ever did make a run

Offline bnau267

Hinson Quick Change cover and plate
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2014, 12:15:18 AM »
Well, I guess we've been drinking from the same bottle then...lol.  $450 to 500 wouldn't surprise me being that they have the Roll syndrome.  I know where I can spend $299.

Offline tretimit16

Hinson Quick Change cover and plate
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2014, 10:10:56 AM »
Last time I talked to kyle he said there is one other guy that has been keeping in touch with them about the covers. I was wondering who that was and I'm guessing it must be you!

Offline bnau267

Hinson Quick Change cover and plate
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2014, 07:38:27 PM »
Well that sucks that only two of us are out there.  The funny part is that a cover a week would sell on Ebay for $400.

Offline bnau267

Hinson Quick Change cover and plate
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2014, 08:02:57 PM »
Quote from: spiritaces;22414
Can't do anything like that if the money isn't there! I'm sure more people would do it if they could!

There are better ways to spend $400.  I'll keep bugging them, CT, and Duncan but plan to support ESR in the meantime.

Offline Rockingkfarms

Hinson Quick Change cover and plate
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2014, 08:04:58 PM »
I would be interested in a true Hinson only
Not in the market for any of the other brands mentioned
Keep me updated please

Offline tretimit16

Hinson Quick Change cover and plate
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2014, 09:01:42 PM »
I'm guessing that if they didn't make a run they would sell 20-30 right away to all the core hinson guys who really want one. And then they would sit on the other 170 for along time. The biggest thing is that they arnt made anymore so they are worth a lot, as soon as they make a run the market is flooded and the value would drop on used ones in return makeing it harder for Hinson to sell them for a profitable price.

Offline Higgy87trx425

Hinson Quick Change cover and plate
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2014, 10:20:47 PM »
At $400 each thats $80,000 for 200 of them. Hell of an investment!!! I'd like to get some more money together and do something like this!!! Not $80,000 worth, but I'd like to work my way up!! Keep bugging them guys!!!
 Thanks Higgy

Offline bnau267

Hinson Quick Change cover and plate
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2014, 06:54:39 AM »
Quote from: tretimit16;22426
I'm guessing that if they didn't make a run they would sell 20-30 right away to all the core hinson guys who really want one. And then they would sit on the other 170 for along time. The biggest thing is that they arnt made anymore so they are worth a lot, as soon as they make a run the market is flooded and the value would drop on used ones in return makeing it harder for Hinson to sell them for a profitable price.


You are spot on!  That is the exact issue in hand on the selling side.  Same problem I ran into when looking at reproducing the OEM fenders and that was utilizing overseas manufacturing/tooling.  But for these covers I struggle with the 200 number being that these are machined job shop type parts.  Can't imagine 200 covers are needed to cover expenses and turn profit assuming they were the original fabricators.  I don't have possession of a cover but I'm guessing there is a cover plate, some bolts, an o-ring, a bolt ring that gets welded on, and the donor cover.  Usually most of the initial expense is in R&D and tooling/jigs.  This should be a non-issue unless everything was originally farmed out with companies that are out of business.  The other issue could be that they typically carry a backlog made up of higher margin products meaning that these cases will never see manufacturing time due to limited capacity and simple economics.  I'd suspect that they can sell the fab'ed case as bare metal and anodize the cover plate to make us all happy happy happy.  That's it - we need a R reality show...lol.  Volume usually has to do with covering min lot buys on materials, setup time, or scrap....I'm not familiar with the exact process but I don't see anything more than machined and off the shelf parts.  Something like a Roll foot peg is easily understandable since they are cast; ultimately it would be nice if these companies could just explain their situation a little more instead of saying no or throwing out random numbers.  With that said, I'll keep at it....maybe we need to get a little more organized by making an actual list of serious buyers.  Lets decide what we want!  At the very least, we should be willing to supply our own side cover.  We can put together a proposal for Hinson and go from there.  They seem very loyal to CT so we may want to ultimately work this through a distributor but let's try to at least get something definitive from Hinson or CT.  2015 marks the 30 year anniversary of our beloved engine....maybe a Hinson 30th anniversary edition cover...WOW!

Thoughts anyone - who's in?  I'll work my tail off to get us organized.  Send me a pm with a first name, a way to get in touch, and price point (need at least $400 w/core donor).

Offline bnau267

Hinson Quick Change cover and plate
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2014, 07:10:47 AM »
If you can't do it today but would be ready sometime this year count yourself in...just let me know the "in" date.

Offline Hawaiiysr

Hinson Quick Change cover and plate
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2014, 10:54:27 AM »
Id be in it this year. My money tree is not is season...  yet

 

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