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Offline rablack21

Clutch problems!
« Reply #30 on: March 13, 2014, 08:19:44 AM »
Quote from: pinned250r;28717
Tony, thanks for helping Dalton out, i stopped by and had about 45 minutes to try and play with it last friday, i figured it was something not allow the clutch to fully disengage, but didnt have time to help him tear into it.

You're helping a good kid out! 16 years old and building his R!

Yep, Both of you guys. Good men.

Offline pinned250r

Clutch problems!
« Reply #31 on: March 13, 2014, 09:47:00 AM »
Quote from: rablack21;28779
Yep, Both of you guys. Good men.

Thanks Ryan!
I ride PINNED! Therefore, no bdt in this household.

Offline Pumashine

Clutch problems!
« Reply #32 on: March 13, 2014, 11:58:47 AM »
Quote from: pinned250r;28717
You're helping a good kid out! 16 years old and building his R!
He's also got the patients needed to work with these 25 year old machines. I mailed him the shims and asked if he needed them sooner than first class mail. His response was "no need for the fast shipping i got to get gaskets and stuff yet any ways" Planning and patients are key ingredients to building a reliable motor.
Puma 408, Puma 431,  Pilot 412, Puma 431, Mini-tooth 486 Trx450r
89mm  Mini tooth Shearer in frame pipe chromed! With Cascade  Q

Offline pinned250r

Clutch problems!
« Reply #33 on: March 13, 2014, 01:20:23 PM »
Bingo! And to add to the list, he is always looking to learn as much as he can! Can't say enough about this kid!
I ride PINNED! Therefore, no bdt in this household.

Offline switchrider

Clutch problems!
« Reply #34 on: March 13, 2014, 02:03:32 PM »
thanks pinned! cant wait till i can no as much as all you guys!!

Offline switchrider

Clutch problems!
« Reply #35 on: March 15, 2014, 09:25:48 AM »
Got my shims in the mail yesterday!! Thanks so much pumashine!! Plainin on trying them out today! See if this solves my problem!!

Offline Pumashine

Clutch problems!
« Reply #36 on: March 15, 2014, 11:16:59 AM »
Quote from: switchrider;28995
Got my shims in the mail yesterday!! Thanks so much pumashine!! Plainin on trying them out today! See if this solves my problem!!

Do take into consideration you can shim it too much. Too much space and the springs will not hold the clutch tight enough. Just as if your friction disks were all worn out and your clutch was slipping.
Puma 408, Puma 431,  Pilot 412, Puma 431, Mini-tooth 486 Trx450r
89mm  Mini tooth Shearer in frame pipe chromed! With Cascade  Q

Offline switchrider

Clutch problems!
« Reply #37 on: March 15, 2014, 11:28:35 AM »
Is there anyway to tell this before it all goes back together? Or just hit or miss?

Offline Pumashine

Clutch problems!
« Reply #38 on: March 15, 2014, 11:37:53 AM »
Quote from: switchrider;29004
Is there anyway to tell this before it all goes back together? Or just hit or miss?
I was trying to explain in an earlier post about holding the outer cover by hand that the push rod pushes against. No springs and bolts. Start by adding the thinnest shim. Have someone pull the clutch lever too see if the outer cover moves away from the plates and disks. If it does not go to the next shim. It should only take a few minutes as you are not assembling the bolts and springs each time. You need to hold the friction disks and plates with the other hand against the motor too see if there is some gap created as the push rod moves out. So you use both hands and the extra person pulls the clutch lever

I am guessing you will only need the smallest shim .030" thick as your push rod was .020" short.
Puma 408, Puma 431,  Pilot 412, Puma 431, Mini-tooth 486 Trx450r
89mm  Mini tooth Shearer in frame pipe chromed! With Cascade  Q

Offline switchrider

Clutch problems!
« Reply #39 on: March 15, 2014, 11:48:14 AM »
Alrighty thanks!! I'll start be doin that!

Offline Pumashine

Clutch problems!
« Reply #40 on: March 15, 2014, 11:53:55 AM »
Quote from: switchrider;29008
Alrighty thanks!! I'll start be doin that!
See if you can take a close up pic of where the actuator arm is pointing before and after you get done if possible. If not no big deal as you may not see the difference but I was hoping you would.
Puma 408, Puma 431,  Pilot 412, Puma 431, Mini-tooth 486 Trx450r
89mm  Mini tooth Shearer in frame pipe chromed! With Cascade  Q

Offline switchrider

Clutch problems!
« Reply #41 on: March 15, 2014, 12:47:13 PM »
It's all back together now I used the second smallest shim. Give me just enough tread on the handle bar and the case mount to have a tight lever with no play. It seems like it won't slip still good pressure on the plates.

Offline Pumashine

Clutch problems!
« Reply #42 on: March 15, 2014, 01:07:18 PM »
Quote from: switchrider;29014
It's all back together now I used the second smallest shim.
That is the .035" same thickness as the stock one its sitting next to. Glad I could help. Niel (C-Leigh Racing) asked me to make this kit as the guys were having problems with the clutch mod he invented. I cut about 40 sets and will make up the aluminum drain plug spacers available as a kit.
Puma 408, Puma 431,  Pilot 412, Puma 431, Mini-tooth 486 Trx450r
89mm  Mini tooth Shearer in frame pipe chromed! With Cascade  Q

Offline switchrider

Clutch problems!
« Reply #43 on: March 15, 2014, 01:21:49 PM »
Thanks so much!! You have been a huge help! Can't thank you enough!!

 

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