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Offline rsss396

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« Reply #60 on: July 14, 2013, 10:45:52 PM »
I degreed and slotted Jim's stator plate today -4 to +8 degrees in 1 degree increments


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Offline d-rock

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« Reply #61 on: July 14, 2013, 11:27:52 PM »
Very cool. is that the 50 watt cr250 stator or the cr500 style ?
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Offline d-rock

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« Reply #62 on: July 14, 2013, 11:28:22 PM »
in the graphs I mean.
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Offline rsss396

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« Reply #63 on: July 14, 2013, 11:33:24 PM »
The graphs are the service Honda cr500 unit with 100w of power that BDT rebadges as their own :distrust:
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Offline d-rock

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« Reply #64 on: July 15, 2013, 01:39:08 AM »
I wish I would have bought that instead of the cr250 ign. but the cr500 ignition looks a little harder to start By the looks of that youtube vid . I might need motofools external generator.
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Offline rsss396

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« Reply #65 on: July 15, 2013, 06:31:54 PM »
I think with the timing advanced it may start a little easier, at least that was derby's experience, plus a cr500 kicker I think kicks the motor over slightly slower due to it being geared for a larger displacement motor.
Will be curious how it works out for Jim
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Offline udontknowme

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« Reply #66 on: July 16, 2013, 01:42:18 AM »
service honda supposedly has or had a new ign setup that is supposed to be better than the old version. the old setup was a pile of crap. rode with a dude at glamis that used one. broke down at the bottom of olds hill. kicked it for a hour
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Offline Morse250r

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« Reply #67 on: July 16, 2013, 06:04:55 AM »
And I'm sure the " service honda kit " has an extreame mark up added to it  from the other guy?? Lol
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Offline rsss396

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« Reply #68 on: July 16, 2013, 06:29:55 AM »
Quote from: udontknowme;4036
service honda supposedly has or had a new ign setup that is supposed to be better than the old version. the old setup was a pile of crap. rode with a dude at glamis that used one. broke down at the bottom of olds hill. kicked it for a hour

this piece is the brand new version that service honda had electrosport build
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Offline rsss396

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« Reply #69 on: July 16, 2013, 09:16:28 AM »
Quote from: Polonda;3392
Am I correct in assuming from all your info posted that if you purchase the service Honda kit and the ESR adapter plate you will end up with an ignition curve that has less timing than the 2001 CR250 curve.  And in order to get more timing you will need to slot the holes on the new stator plate?

I want to re-answer this question as I was incorrect because I had not yet removed the plates that center the stator at zero.

Typical Honda stators have a slotted top bolt hole and on the bottom a single hole centering plate that locates the stator. If you remove this plate then the the stator plate can rotate normally 4-5 degrees.
This Electrosport stator plate is different in it has 2 centering plates, I did not notice that they has sandwiched a top centering plate in between the bracket that holds the wires from the stator and pickup away from the flywheel.
When you remove both centering plates from the top and bottom then you can advance the stator plate just like a Honda stator plate which with no modifications you will get between 4-5 degrees advanced, if you want more than you need to slot the stator plate
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Offline MajorCR3

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« Reply #70 on: July 16, 2013, 11:18:31 AM »
Always enjoy reading about Dave's ignition stuff.  Learned a lot right here.  Might have to look at the service honda setup for my sphynx.  

How much more of a markup is the BDT setup compared to being straight from Service Honda?  

Nick
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Offline rsss396

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« Reply #71 on: July 16, 2013, 12:34:23 PM »
Not sure if you have seen but I did map 8 of the 10 programmable votex maps for the TRX250R, my tester had a malfuntion before I could finsh maps 9 and 10
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Offline havinnoj

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« Reply #72 on: July 17, 2013, 08:26:08 AM »
Quote from: rsss396;4120
Not sure if you have seen but I did map 8 of the 10 programmable votex maps for the TRX250R, my tester had a malfuntion before I could finsh maps 9 and 10

Can we get that info brought over here too and sticky all the ignition stuff?  The thread on the other site seems to have lost the pics.
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Offline rsss396

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« Reply #73 on: July 17, 2013, 09:11:41 AM »
all ready here in the tech section http://trx250r.org/showthread.php?96-Ign-maps
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Offline motofool250r

Ignition
« Reply #74 on: July 18, 2013, 12:55:59 PM »
Dave im gonna send you my external Lighting coil setup when i get back to alabama in a couple weeks
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