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Offline mrtwidster1

Powder coating Clutch cover question?
« on: April 23, 2014, 09:12:01 AM »
Is a low temp powder needed on the clutch cover? Also, If I dont like the powder what is the best way to remove it?
Thanks

Offline patman13mia

Powder coating Clutch cover question?
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2014, 10:55:32 AM »
i dont think a low temp powder is needed for the clutch cover. and also i think sandblast or beadblast is gona be the best way to get it off.

Offline Pumashine

Powder coating Clutch cover question?
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2014, 11:06:53 AM »
Powder is some tough stuff. I have a couple water pump covers I have sand blasted for hours and still not a bare spot in sight. I did a pair of frint springs one time which also came close to 3 hours of blasting at 150 psi. I heard it needs to be burnt off. I have some center cases with PC on them. I plan to sand and paint a different color.
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Offline pinned250r

Powder coating Clutch cover question?
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2014, 12:33:31 PM »
My powder guy only bead blasts, and has no problems with removing powder. I will ask him what he does to speed up the process.
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Offline Powderillusions

Powder coating Clutch cover question?
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2014, 12:51:47 PM »
chemical strippers is best -- I wouldnt burn off a side cover and blasting powder coat to remove is not really the way to go---

Offline sanddad21

Powder coating Clutch cover question?
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2014, 01:12:14 PM »
use a rose bud torch and heat the powder coat till it turns black and starts to crack it can be removed pretty easy after that. thats how my P/C guy does it

Offline Hawaiiysr

Powder coating Clutch cover question?
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2014, 02:20:12 PM »
Quote from: mrtwidster1;32184
Is a low temp powder needed on the clutch cover? Also, If I dont like the powder what is the best way to remove it?
Thanks

You care to tell us where you heard that low temp powder in needed to do covers?
I'm pretty sure I know.

Offline Pumashine

Powder coating Clutch cover question?
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2014, 03:27:13 PM »
Quote from: Hawaiiysr;32214
You care to tell us where you heard that low temp powder in needed to do covers?


Low temp powder?????????????Is this done so you don't ruin the mechanical seal?

 
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Offline Hawaiiysr

Powder coating Clutch cover question?
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2014, 03:52:42 PM »
Coc was claiming covers and cases need to use low temp powder. That's the way it was done in Japan and thats the way we at xxx do it. I remember that tread went on for a few pages and members ate it all up.

Offline Rupp250

Powder coating Clutch cover question?
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2014, 05:12:08 PM »
Quote from: Hawaiiysr;32223
Coc was claiming covers and cases need to use low temp powder. That's the way it was done in Japan and thats the way we at xxx do it. I remember that tread went on for a few pages and members ate it all up.

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Offline Powderillusions

Powder coating Clutch cover question?
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2014, 05:13:49 PM »
Ill give you what I can on "low temp powders" most places dont even carry low temp powders (they carry LowER temp not low temp if that makes sense) you can get powder that will cure out at around 225* but its limited in colors and limited in where you can get it  just like high cure temp powders are very limited in colors---

I was just on the phone with prismatic earlier and they dont carry low temp powders at all  now the lowER temp I said above as an example some cure at 340 some at 375 some at 400 415 etc you get the idea--  PBTP has a simigloss black that can cure out at 280---you can cut temp a little lower and drag out oven time a little longer but even that has a cut-off point

another example my personal bike is getting a lot of blue parts on it the lowest I can take that blue to get a full cure is 350--(thats a 400* cure powder) I have some Tuscan flat black the lowest I can cut that to is from 375 @15minutes to 330@25-30 minutes
 the blue going on my bike flows out at approx 230* -BUT just because the powder has flowed out dont mean its cured--- the powder will not be very durable --think of it like this >>you just added an egg shell to your part

Below is a test part I did today (blue as said above) did all the prep like it was a normal part, got the part temp to approx 250* and let it sit for 20 -30 in the oven-- let cool---the pitted marks are from hitting the part with a pair of regular pliers (not really that hard either) you could actually scratch it fairly easily to-- the center of the pitt mark is where the hit happened the area around that is where the powder "popped" off  BUT notice one hit free end of the part LOOKS just fine---now this is by no means a perfect test of things but more of a rough version I did because I wanted to see what would really happen  

« Last Edit: April 23, 2014, 05:33:34 PM by Powderillusions »

Offline mrtwidster1

Powder coating Clutch cover question?
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2014, 12:34:28 PM »
Quote from: Hawaiiysr;32214
You care to tell us where you heard that low temp powder in needed to do covers?
I'm pretty sure I know.

Maybe a BUG whispered it in my ear???
So the general advice is????? Don't sweat it????
As far as the removal goes.... I have used a rosebud to remove powder from an aluminun 450r swinger with no problems but I dont want to damage my 500 dollar Hinson cover, (that took me years to get,) or my 300 dollar esr cover. So even if the BUG is wrong, I want to know that for sure. Thanks!!! The word for today is RAID!!!!!!

Offline mrtwidster1

Powder coating Clutch cover question?
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2014, 12:38:54 PM »
PI... Thanks for the test and the descriptions. I was wondering what happens when powder is not "cured" correctly!

Offline muthahucker

Powder coating Clutch cover question?
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2014, 07:15:17 AM »
I heard that you can spray a part with gasket remover and it will take old powder coating off.. Spray it on and let it sit for awhile, it wrinkles up and you can wipe it off... I have never tried it myself, just heard it from others.

 

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