pumashine's ftz cylinder

[patman13mia]

so tony was so cool enough to help me out and send me a cylinder so i can get to riding while i wait on my esr cylinder from neil at cleigh racing. nice lookin cylinder i must say. check out the pic down below. does anybody know how to take these little inserts out. one side has them and the other doesnt. i dont want to damage them cause they are not mine.

[udontknowme]

they dont appear to be totally corroded in there but if they were i normally just crush them in half with pliers and pull em out and replace.  since they probly arent corroded i just use a small punch and tap em out from the top side. it might make a couple small burrs but then just clean up any burrs with a small file and your good as new. or you could dump a bunch of heat to the cylinder ears but i dont recomend doing that although im sure someone will suggest it. they crush real easy so i wouldnt grab em with pliers around the outside. clean em up with sandpaper and use antiseize or somethin. make sure they go all the way in the pocket or it could hang up the cylinder when you put it back on

[patman13mia]

yea ive been tryna beat em from the top with a punch but they arent budging. i may crush em up and just paypal tony the money for em. theres only 2. idk if he seen that before. thanks for the help dude

[udontknowme]

sometimes a couple taps with a punch will get em out if you go around the outside edge in a few different spots. if that dont work then bend em in half and pull em i guess ? unless someone knows a different way.

there is something you might try. if you have a socket nearly the same ID then put it in there and you could probly grab em with pliers but im sure it will leave teeth marks so youll have to file em down

for sure heat would do the trick but i dont like that idea but its your call

[patman13mia]

thanks for all the tips. i just got em out. took the vise grips to them. they needed to be spun and broke loose. then hammered em out with punch

[Pumashine]

Those are the alignment barrels, all cylinder use them. You really should have some new ones on there. Sorry I was not thinking about that problem.

[patman13mia]

i dont think i need them though do i? i took them out. here is a pic of the cylinder with the .020 gasket. will post the rest in a min

[patman13mia]

here is the .040 gasket
looks like im gona need all 3?? it should pretty much be flush with the top of the cylinder correct??

[Pumashine]

Looks like you need the 3/16 spacer plate with 2 .020" gaskets. :lol: Its real hard to build a motor from 200 miles away.

[patman13mia]

here is all 3 gaskets. will this be good enough?

[patman13mia]

well i still have to install the head gasket to which is pretty thick. would that also make a difference?

[Pumashine]

No Pat, you need the 3/16 spacer plate. I have a long rod piston but I think it would be worse. Or maybe not. I can send a spacer and this other piston to see where the piston comes flush with the top of the cylinder at TDC. And the alignment barrels keep your bore centered on the motor

[patman13mia]

here it is all three gaskets and also head gasket. i dont see that this would be a problem??

[patman13mia]

ok well if you have any more of those dowel pins then can send those. i could look around here at a motorsports spot n see if they have any. idk though. nobody does two strokes here.

[Bowtie316]

Order the alignment barrels online from a Honda dealer. You are going to need a spacer period.

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