Author Topic: PM from Carlos concerning CP Industries products (Read 13065 times)

F-Red · « **Reply #15 on:** June 13, 2014, 06:12:10 PM »

This is an opportunity, for a Eddie, Arlen or a collaboration, to offer a larger cylinder. These guys would have more business, then the competitors! We need to take control of the "R" :onthego::onthego:

havinnoj · « **Reply #16 on:** June 13, 2014, 10:18:43 PM »

Quote from: Carlos

a full Drag port on a single will not work well at 7000'

So the Packard 250R's running in their backyard, Sand Mountain, Utah (5500') must have ran pretty crappy at that elevation then too huh?! Or were those "all around port jobs"?

Quote from: Carlos

you will see the so called haters that are BDT customers are 2 including you. Everyone else feeds of the 'frenzy' lies create.

Really? Only 2? There were way more customers than that in just the last thread on BDT built motors. Seems like every couple weeks there's a new unsatisfied customer on Facebook too. Wonder how many don't even post about it.

Quote from: Carlos

ask your self why we are the 250R & 2 stroke leading shop currently

Wonder how you came to that conclusion? Most items listed on eBay? Shop that can't give away a used BDT built Sphynx?

Quote from: Carlos

Ask why CP Industries picked BDT to be sole sole distributor for Sabers

Because nobody was buying these cylinders and you paid for 20 up front. I fully applaud this effort but don't act like CPI chose you because you were Simply the Best. You still have to sell to cylinders to builders at dealer cost.

Quote from: Carlos

Note that they (CPI) was approached by the Top builders as well, yet they chose BDT...

Again - nice "spin & transmit" - more like these builders didn't want to buy and sit on 20 cylinders for 8 years when only a couple were selling each year.

Quote from: Carlos

If we built such 'bad' engines, and 'ripped' everyone off as a few would have you believe, then we would not be so successful

:rofl: Please define what makes BDT "so successful".. is it the 5 buildings that make up the BDT complex that nobody has seen? Is it the motors or pipes nobody has seen a dyno of? Is it the empty promises to race 300'?

Carlos - you've been banned from a number of online forums because most folks & builders can't stand you. You could be a positive asset to the 250R community if you could just be honest and upfront.

GO OVRIT · « **Reply #17 on:** June 13, 2014, 10:20:42 PM »

Hopefully its just a lot of smoke and lights, but it's a shame for any drama to go on after Calvin has passed away. I'm cool with the saber deal since it basically saved a line from being discontinued. But, if the puma and sphynx deals are for real, then that's screwed up. Its one thing to have a monopoly on something you create, but cornering the market on somebody else's product is cut throat business.

Kevhes11 · « **Reply #18 on:** June 13, 2014, 10:36:38 PM »

I would just love to actually see a bdt bike in person. I see a lot of ESR, CT, ect but not one bdt. I don't live far away hw don't I see this successful companies motors at the local events? In pismo? No where but a small select guys he gives parts to so they advertise for him.

rsss396 · « **Reply #19 on:** June 13, 2014, 10:46:49 PM »

I will be curious if BDT actually machines these cylinders themselves, they claimed in the past that they bought sphynx and puma cylinders raw so they could machine cylinders themselves.
Well I just so happen to have a new machined BDT cylinder come thru my shop and I also just so happen to have the exact cylinder bought directly from CP. The markings and style of writing were the same on both cylinders telling me this cylinder was purchased already machined from CP. Now I will give BDT credit for machining the cylinders nut surface square with the cylinders base to eliminate stresses on the case bolts in attempt to stop case bolts from breaking. CP should add this step to their process for better durability for its customers.

the cylinder on the left is a BDT the right is direct from CP I started the porting on the tunnels of the BDT cylinder before taking this picture so ignore them. Look closely at the writing and tell me I if I am wrong in thinking both were done by CP

rsss396 · « **Reply #20 on:** June 13, 2014, 10:55:54 PM »

I had another pic of the tops of the cylinder but for some reason it's gone but again the writing is in the same spot in the same style writing. The customer that bought this cylinder was told by Carlos him self that they machined this cylinder, which I is highly suspect.

C-Leigh Racing · « **Reply #21 on:** June 13, 2014, 11:00:50 PM »

Dave,
You know its kinda tuff, sitting here & you & me know things that nobody else does, but we cant say anything about how we know. Know what I'm talking about ?.
Neil

rsss396 · « **Reply #22 on:** June 13, 2014, 11:09:45 PM »

Yes I know what you are saying Neil!

troybilt · « **Reply #23 on:** June 13, 2014, 11:14:47 PM »

Spill the beans!

Pumashine · « **Reply #24 on:** June 13, 2014, 11:16:29 PM »

Quote from: C-Leigh Racing;36591

Know what I'm talking about ?l

Oh Neil, this is a no brainer. 2 cylinders from the same machining factory with the same handwriting. But somehow they look exactly the same. One was machined by BDT but no one can tell the difference. That means BDT does the best machining as they can match a cylinder 1800 miles away. Dah!!!

C-Leigh Racing · « **Reply #25 on:** June 13, 2014, 11:37:10 PM »

Nope, got nothing to do with Daves post Tony.
Its sad in a way because we cant say, but Dave is a bit more higher ranking than myself & we have the honor of finding out stuff before 3/4 of the United States ever even gets a whiff of it.
Kinda like hes got a key & I got the other one that both have to unlocks the button at a nuke site & were standing in the crowed & nobody knows we have them or got anything to do with it.

I'll stop right here before I go to far & end up getting myself into trouble. I portray an ol dumb hillbilly & thats just how I want it to stay.
Neil

F-Red · « **Reply #26 on:** June 13, 2014, 11:52:36 PM »

Money Tony! It's always about the coin! :crushed:

udontknowme · « **Reply #27 on:** June 14, 2014, 12:50:06 AM »

i dont see what altitude has to do with tuning problems. youll be down on power alittle at 7000 but thats to be expected. im at 6300 and probly 5hp less than sealevel i would guess. not much you can do about it unless you get some help from a turbo or nitrous or something

xTHUNDERCATx · « **Reply #28 on:** June 14, 2014, 12:50:42 AM »

I may be completely misreading this but it sounds like your hinting that dave and yourself know something controversial but cant tell. If thats the case you should at least say if its good news or bad news coming.

Quote from: C-Leigh Racing;36599

Nope, got nothing to do with Daves post Tony.
Its sad in a way because we cant say, but Dave is a bit more higher ranking than myself & we have the honor of finding out stuff before 3/4 of the United States ever even gets a whiff of it.
Kinda like hes got a key & I got the other one that both have to unlocks the button at a nuke site & were standing in the crowed & nobody knows we have them or got anything to do with it.

I'll stop right here before I go to far & end up getting myself into trouble. I portray an ol dumb hillbilly & thats just how I want it to stay.
Neil

mandom250r · « **Reply #29 on:** June 14, 2014, 01:04:02 AM »

Quote from: xTHUNDERCATx;36608

I may be completely misreading this but it sounds like your hinting that dave and yourself know something controversial but cant tell. If thats the case you should at least say if its good news or bad news coming.

thats why i say buy your CP cylinders while you still have a chance